Hermeticism/Qabalah

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    bump

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      what do you mean non demiurgic? Anon alchemy is pretty uniquely tied to Christianity in what the end product was supposed to be and represent.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hermetic principles were coopted by nicene Christianity, but they predate it, do they not? Poimandres and the Hermetica as a whole are not Christian texts. The same goes for Kabbalah although I don't know enough about it to ascertain whether it is a demiurgic system or not.
        >what do you mean non demiurgic
        Basically anything that would seek unification or reunion with this world's creator as being the ultimate goal or good, as opposed to a more acosmic stance of ascending beyond the planetary spheres and its architects.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          There is literally nothing for you in alchemy nor kabbalah then anon I'm genuinely unsure what the frick you were expecting

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            anon Kabbalah is israeli mysticism, trying to understand the cosmos and how God created it and is a apart of it. Is this just some elaborate post to just start screaming about israelites or something?

            Okay, my bad, I was just wondering if there was something in there I could work with. Especially since I've seen the Sephirot be mapped to celestial spheres so I thought it might work in a Gnostic framework, guess I was wrong though.
            What could I work with, in that case?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Not much anon at all anon, again its all linked pretty heavily to Christianity and Judaism, and you're rejecting that, its pretty pointless to try to get into it

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          anon Kabbalah is israeli mysticism, trying to understand the cosmos and how God created it and is a apart of it. Is this just some elaborate post to just start screaming about israelites or something?

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          what we know as Alchemy became a think well after Christianity really settled in, there was some stuff before christ, but most of what would really become it was a mixture of Muslim and christian cosmology and mysticism/early chemistry ie tied pretty heavily to Oneness with God in one way or another

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This might be anecdotal, but didn't Jung get heavily invested in spiritual alchemy despite being a (crypto-)gnostic?

            Not much anon at all anon, again its all linked pretty heavily to Christianity and Judaism, and you're rejecting that, its pretty pointless to try to get into it

            No I meant outside of Hermeticism and Kabbalah, anything else I could consider that fits in an acosmic framework.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Jung is spiritual alchemy, and it is a disastrous mishmash of alchemical ideas blended together with psychology that tries to claim all alchemy is purely in them mind/spiritual, while ignoring/rejecting centuries/millennia of written, documented history of physical alchemy. Its just more new age garbage and as far as Im aware nothing ot do with Gnosticism

            as to your other question, I mean, you're already working into Gnosticism, isnt that enough? Just dont fall into the /x/ tier doomer garbage and focus on personal enlightenment/knowledge, not the "everything is awful the world is suffering billions must die" shit

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you're already working into Gnosticism
            Yes, but I have no praxis, nothing I can actually do beyond trying to accumulate more knowledge.
            No, I know the difference between Gnosticism and the new age branch of prison planet matrix shit. My inclination is more Sethian than Valentinian though.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I mean what the hell else is there than salvation through personal knowledge? Isnt that the whole point? You kind of chose a one trick pony there anon as far as shit too do as a path to spiritual enlightenment. That said its as PERSONAL path, so honestly you can in theory do whatever you want, but thats part of the problem isnt it?

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >you're already working into Gnosticism
            Yes, but I have no praxis, nothing I can actually do beyond trying to accumulate more knowledge.
            No, I know the difference between Gnosticism and the new age branch of prison planet matrix shit. My inclination is more Sethian than Valentinian though.

            Also ignore the trip gay, this probably goes without saying but figured I'd say.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Trismegistus Remastered

            Ignore this tard, because if there's something worth reading but you've missed it because of some outdated rule that's your problem.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            What is knowledge without direct experience? Gnosis has a practical component, I think. It's not just dry academic study.
            I get your point though, you're right, the drawback of a personal path is that there's no right answer to my question, but really it just seems to me that no system of praxis is inherently compatible with a Gnostic worldview anyway. Everything boils down to union with the creator, or with some kind of monistic principle.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            that and a mixture of platonic/neo-platonism thought, which early christians drank deeply into and adapted

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Trismegistus Remastered

    Pretend you're literally in the year 4000 and role play the fact that nothing exists except for two books.

    The Bible. The Corpus Hermeticum. Stay of the Internet. Get some pens and notebooks, drawing crap. Literally just the shit you would have prior to the internet.

    That's all you need. Go ascetic as frick for a few months.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Trismegistus Remastered

      >4000 BC**
      Typo.

      Go observe nature. Go observe things you've been accustomed to see as normal because you've been surrounded by it your whole life. Don't let made made structures play on your heightened senses.

      Nature. Observe it.

      If you can observe people without hearing them talk or reading what they say; more the merrier.

      Just observe and shut up, and always remember that YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING if you want to learn any thing.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good advice
        Can confirm

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Trismegistus Remastered

    fun fact
    >i've read like a total of maybe 6 books in my entire life
    >literally skimmed the first few pages of most things in the past 10 years

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Trismegistus Remastered

    >Torah and Corpus Hermeticum aren't even "books"
    >they're like ancient encylopedias.
    >Corpus Hermeticum is PHD level end exam stuff that only makes sense after studying Torah
    >Torah is just the total collective of your entire school work prior to completing

    Think of this as analogy. Think of this as individual and collective.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Trismegistus Remastered

    Torah = The 3 movies of LOTR
    Corpus = The fandom with all the lore in between + The Hobbit

    • 3 weeks ago
      Trismegistus Remastered

      You're changing how you see the movie. You're strengthening ties with the prophets by reading the lore. You're enriching yourself in the world by general interest.

      Lore is navigable and areas are decided entirely up to you, when you want to search those areas. I.e. The drive behind wanting to know more, is what makes one seek into lore in the first place. Otherwise you'd be satisified with just the movie - and sometimes that's ok because those people don't hurt anyone and they're still immersed just as anyone of us are, it's all relative.

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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