God had to make the world as if it seems there is no God because if you knew there was a God or you could see God - that would be a Master & Slave...

God had to make the world as if it seems there is no God because if you knew there was a God or you could see God - that would be a Master & Slave dichotomy and that would be wrong. If we knew there was a God, the spiritual journey wouldn't be authentic.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know God exists and still have an authentic spiritual journey. I think you are trying to describe the veil and a reason for the separation. The reason is simple: we are as far away from God as one can be while still being able to conceive of it's existence. This makes the spiritual journey more worthwile.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/OtBBiBX.jpg

      God had to make the world as if it seems there is no God because if you knew there was a God or you could see God - that would be a Master & Slave dichotomy and that would be wrong. If we knew there was a God, the spiritual journey wouldn't be authentic.

      I read my Bible and the spiritual journey sucks

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Use something other than the Bible then. The Bible doesn't contain the complete knowledge of God, only a very small portion. God is an eternal being and you think a book can sum it up easily?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          God already revealed himself to mankind, most reject him because they love sin.

          See Romans 1.

          Your prophet mohammed raped a child.

          You think God isn't powerful enough to write a book? You just hate the book because God's Word condemns your gay sins, and don't think the outside world is unaware of all the pederasty in Islamic countries. Islam is a pedo child rapist hedonist religion which promotes murder and child rape.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Your prophet mohammed raped a child.
            Children are innocent beings that don't know yet certain things.
            A person that knows those things has reached maturity, and thus, is no longer a child.
            This is regardless of age, it's just that our current society has made the child stage last as long as possible, even if this causes more abuse because children don't even know what's happening.
            9 year old girls of the past had more maturity than 20 years old girls of today, and weren't innocent children at all.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >the blind man faces the sun and says, that can't possibly exist, everyone must be making it up

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's the Doug Forcett problem from the Good Place. If you're aware of it then your intention is corrupted by knowing and you're judged even more harshly. Still stuck on how to proceed with this and it seems like indifference to everything and following intuition is the answer, at least for me. Sorry for all who read this, ggnore.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >indifference to everything and following intuition is the answer
      yes

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >that would be a Master & Slave dichotom
    Forget that, you would know for certain that any bad event in the world could have been stopped by god, and instead he got a cup of noodles to eat while watching all the suffering going on.
    The butthole.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You forget that God experiences reality through us and suffers with us for whatever reason. Not knowing why is part of the fun.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I want to be treated as if I am 5 for literally ever
      No he just wanted you to move outta the basement. Imagine being a fully grown adult and demanding that literally every other adult that could ever do anything wrong be completely and utterly controlled to such a point that nothing in your mind ever goes "wrong". Funnily enough you would see such an action as insanely evil. Did you read Brave New World/1984 and like that world? I bet you freak out at the idea of the CIA/Elon Musk installing mind control chips in everyone so as to control everyone forever more, oh idk what do Christians call it, oh right the mark of the beast. Yet you fricking idolize such a thing. You literally want everyone to be so completely and utterly controlled to such a point that all evil actions that they could ever choose, or even think to act upon, would and could never happen let alone be thought about. That is literally Brave New World/1984/Mark of the Beast shit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm talking about miracles that could save someone, when nobody around is able to help.
        Everyone would want to use their free will to help this person recover, and not die, but god just decides to not do any miracle, and the person dies, and everyone around suffers, because nobody could help, and god didn't care about them.

        • 2 months ago
          Vicar-Devil

          There is a logical reason for the death of individuals and I am not going to divulge it today, but may in the future when you are further on the journey.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Well, if someone has to die, why does it need to be this person that creates all this suffering by dying? Why not that other one that is abusive and will kill others and cause more suffering by remaining alive?
            There are people that do the world a favor by dying, god could swap them so they die instead. Either god can't, or he doesn't exist.
            Or he actually chuckles when someone suffers.

          • 2 months ago
            Vicar-Devil

            The virtuous are often given the position of victim to god precisely because they can be trusted and they learn exponentially. Swapping happens without the human race's knowledge, but in temporal reality that is not evidenced to any except the few.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >learn exponentially
            Learning is a trap, nothing you can learn in life has any purpose out there, we do this for entertainment only.
            Whatever you learn in life is equivalent to learning about goombas of Super Mario Bros, or the battle mechanics of pokemon, or how to avoid the ghosts in pac man.
            Whatever you learn here has no effect on the real life of real life.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      God is never wrong and is always the most fair, I believe God repays people for having bad things done to them and still doing the right thing

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I could say the same about you when you didn't help that old person, or that poor animal, or when you lashed out in anger, envy, lust.

      God is never wrong and is always the most fair, I believe God repays people for having bad things done to them and still doing the right thing

      If God would interact with the world he/she would be breaking one of his principles and that would be
      >do not interfere with free will

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I could say the same about you when you didn't help that old person, or that poor animal, or when you lashed out in anger, envy, lust.
        But if at any point the live of someone depended on me, I could do my best to save them.
        While god was looking under the couch for the popcorn that fell to the floor.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's the thing, everyones life is depended on someone else, I'm sure that you had opportunities to make, even a small difference, in someones life (and probably did).
          Maybe we feel anger and resentment toward God because we feel abandoned but in reality it is we who have abandoned God.

  5. 2 months ago
    Vicar-Devil

    The nature of God is to ascertain all eventualities.
    The division you are describing is in your mind.
    Shift your perception towards relativistic variable reality to proceed.

    My journey has been as authentic as possible given the data available at the time and I am a soldier of ignorance to spirit.
    After being a mystic of the order of a follower of Gaia and the natural order of biosphere-based spirituality.
    How energetic makeup affects your intellect is not the ultimate answer to making contact with God. State-based dynamics are always perceptually deceiving of logic.

    The older (in terms of millennia) you get, the more the environment becomes a navigable and alterable phenomenon.
    I have met masters and students of energetic field manipulation and they can alter emotional values within another with amplification of spirit alone. Angels shift these energies when they are restless.

    To reach the stars and the environments which do not conform to localised biosphere energetic structure, we are required to advance as a species. Variability is the nature of the universe and we have little comprehension of the state of another world's biosphere. Your logic currently is in line with localised energy vibrations and you should adapt or risk reaching peak human intelligence at a holy level and you will be without the duality of truth and just like a Jesuit who holds the holy spirit to be a force of advancement when in fact it stalemates the space program.

    Depression sets in when in orbit unless you are trained to develop immunity. They say it is a lack of familiar things, but the science is actually more complex than that and involves energetic fields.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Depression sets in when in orbit unless you are trained to develop immunity. They say it is a lack of familiar things, but the science is actually more complex than that and involves energetic fields.
      I think this is true because the focus of our society is on culture and adding to the zeitgeist every moment of the day. That's hard to do while sitting in outer space with nothing going on. To fix this we need a shift in society or teach people how to break out of it and look for those who can.

      Someone who has lived outside of our culture from within it their entire life would be much better suited at sitting in orbit, unfortunately we would never give them the chance because they aren't popular enough.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Freewill 101 : everything should be possible, even "unmoral" ones.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >God *had* to-
    Stopped reading right there. You are making the assertation that there is something that God cannot do.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think God exists because in every civilization in every corner of the world throughout history, there have been religious doctrines written of the idea of him. Now, do I think God created so many people to be wrong and condemned to hell because they were born in the wrong place or time? No, I think he is everywhere. I think humans have a link to Him inherently and want to believe in something greater than themselves. He made many paths to get to Him and he is good.

  9. 2 months ago
    Vicar-Devil

    Test, torment, game, evolution of mind, development of spirit.. etc etc.

    These are all one action by god in a moment surrounding and including a life.

  10. 2 months ago
    Vicar-Devil

    Continued humility of the species will result in a lack of resolution for a prolongued period.

    I advise against extrapolating humility before God to humility before all others.

  11. 2 months ago
    letters to Freyja

    Not true. I am alive because of Freyja.

  12. 2 months ago
    DonktheClown

    >If we knew there was a God, the spiritual journey wouldn't be authentic.
    You'll really be blown away when you finally realize that GOD is within you, and nowhere else. Everyone and everything you see is that same ONE GOD, wearing trillions of different masks and costumes..

    • 2 months ago
      letters to Freyja

      >ONE GOD, wearing trillions of different masks and costum
      Not true.
      I used to speculate this and once Freyja said in my dream that I would learn she is not on other people
      Also had a dream I was a the gym and Eckhart Tolle having a Schwarzenegger body passed walking in front of me and it was written in the wall "are the humans in the image of gods"

      And Freyja is 11/10 and no woman looks like her not even in the slightest

      • 2 months ago
        Vicar-Devil

        Is your belief dangerous to me?

        I think not so I leave you.

        >learn exponentially
        Learning is a trap, nothing you can learn in life has any purpose out there, we do this for entertainment only.
        Whatever you learn in life is equivalent to learning about goombas of Super Mario Bros, or the battle mechanics of pokemon, or how to avoid the ghosts in pac man.
        Whatever you learn here has no effect on the real life of real life.

        Life is a blink in the universal progression and a negative infinity in the temporal flux of chaos as an infinite complexity.

        Prepare your mind or get left to the energetic over will of biosphere vibrational energies.

        • 2 months ago
          letters to Freyja

          So enlightened! Like a homosexual like world war loser Eckhart Tolle.
          Go marry a chink too, moron, look to the sky and ponder the israelite scripture hermeneutics but try to not tell others makes me cry from sadness

          I was looking on Facebook this woman taking the picture of a stray dog and asking for someone to do something
          It was a female stray dog and she was with four other male dogs and saying "someone please do something! They won't leave her alone!"

          You are the same thing to me, brown moron
          Don't tell me about the israelite scriptures, I don't want to hear it!
          Humble moron!

          • 2 months ago
            Vicar-Devil

            Excuse me?

            You are highly overwrought or just baiting.

          • 2 months ago
            letters to Freyja

            I have to go now!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      One of God's favorite ways to try to create a justification for abusing me is by saying that "I'm God" then he makes threads like this because he's too stupid to realize that by his own "morality" me being God wouldn't be an excuse for him to abuse me it would be a reason for him to suffer eternal consequences for the eternal sins he commits against me.

  13. 2 months ago
    letters to Freyja

    Fricking forever spiritual "learner"! Forever on their learning journeys and the only thing they never learn is how to clean their own ass!

    • 2 months ago
      Vicar-Devil

      But the evolution of yourself is not something you should necessarily fail to recognize in every situation, or else you will become stale and repetitive.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When you are already at the top the only direction is downhill, so it's valid to stay stale and repetitive at the top.

        • 2 months ago
          Vicar-Devil

          If you get there it is, but the game is designated to continue for a while as a structured and warm-pool/cold-pool scenario.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            In practice, I've seen more people succeed because they believe they're already enlightened, that they don't need to improve or evolve because they already got what it takes.
            Instead of those that accelerate their speed on their journey, learning faster, gathering more information, increasing their knowledge, without realizing they're inside a hamster wheel.

          • 2 months ago
            Vicar-Devil

            Perceptual opinion suggests both can be a hamster wheel, you seem unhappy with the world because everyone is not identical to you.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            That's not it, I know if everyone was identical to me, the would would crumble, you could say I'm a burden to society.
            But what I do is getting people around me want they want, if I can, if all the people in the world did this, for certain, things would get better.
            Instead, we have this mother that won't buy her child candy, even though she can, just because it makes her feel the power of deciding what her child can eat or not.

          • 2 months ago
            Vicar-Devil

            Best of luck then, I am not without this kind of attitude, you just seem to think I am something that is a threat if I agree to let you be, learn this much, please.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's quite a shame that the guy that is wrong in this thread talks in perfect grammar english and the one that is right talks like an insane madman you wouldn't let your kids watch.
    The state of the world.

    • 2 months ago
      Vicar-Devil

      If you are suggesting my grammar is wrong, I would not know. I taught myself to write as an adult.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I'm suggesting letters to Freyja is closer to the truth than you, even though nobody would ever follow them.

        • 2 months ago
          Vicar-Devil

          And I said I would leave you to it, so why the hatred?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            I don't have any hatred, I actually find these discussions very interesting and have learned things from you here, and the other thread, even though I don't think learning does anything for me, it can be fun to gather new ideas.
            >Did this turn into some weird LARP between characters?
            Nah, that's the nature of someone posting with a name, and a trip, it happens everywhere but here it's rare because of anonymity. It'd be fun if he was AI and I haven't caught on, but I'm legit.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >It'd be fun if he was AI and I haven't caught on, but I'm legit.
            I could tell you were legit bud, it's the other one I'm worried about lol

            An AI bot and a human mind stuck in a mental role it's built for itself over time can be near indistinguishable.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      He's not right. His habitual tendencies are terrible and they're a result of his lawlessness.

      >ONE GOD, wearing trillions of different masks and costum
      Not true.
      I used to speculate this and once Freyja said in my dream that I would learn she is not on other people
      Also had a dream I was a the gym and Eckhart Tolle having a Schwarzenegger body passed walking in front of me and it was written in the wall "are the humans in the image of gods"

      And Freyja is 11/10 and no woman looks like her not even in the slightest

      They don't have to be honest with you. They can lie to you lol. In fact that's basically all they ever do

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Did this turn into some weird LARP between characters? Is there an AI chatbot in the house? lmao what a weird thread

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You have to know before you know man. Keep seeking and maybe it'll show itself. Or maybe it will either way

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God absolutely doesn't try to make the world seem as if there's no God, he makes it explicitly clear that everyone else on earth is controlled by him as a moronic troony hivemind that only exists so he can abuse, dominate and enslave me through them and they demonstrate that they are completely fake constantly every day by raping my mind and harassing, terrorizing, abusing, threatening etc for literally anything I think or do in private which would be impossible if they were "real". God's primary goal in creating this world was to create a "master & slave dichotomy" by forcing me to live as a slave with everything desirable violently gtatekept from me including in my literal imagination so that he can be my "master" through everyone else who he controls as a moronic troony hivemind. There's no such thing as a "spiritual journey", God just created this world so he can abuse and dominate me through everyone else in it and he never intends to stop

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