Gnosticism is a fairly recent umbrella term to roughly describe similarities in the beliefs of several early christian sects.

Gnosticism is a fairly recent umbrella term to roughly describe similarities in the beliefs of several early christian sects. But what, actually, was their endgame? Was it a critique of the church and the way christianity was going through allegory? Was it ancient psychoanalysis like Jung put it? Was it just a platonist shitpost that became part of the 1st millennium philosophical current to make irenaeus seethe uncontrollably?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >pic
    wait i thought abraxas and the demiurge were the same

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's unclear what abraxas is, there is a text in which he's referred to as an aeon and in others as an archon.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        it's either a power or an authority, definitely a primordial entity

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        He is associated with the number 365, the action of reality itself but you cannot call it action.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      More like Abrasax (correct spelling btw) is the whole psyche, whereas Demiurge is the ego

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        bit confusing but still thank you for answering anon

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Sure, I'll elaborate on my interpretation.
          Abrasax is said to rule over all 365 heavens, however, he's not at the very top of deity/entity hierarchy, he's only in top 6 at best, the preceding 5 were responsible in creating him.
          The psyche, in totality of consciousness and unconsciousness, sure can contain anything in one interpretation or another, and it wouldn't be weird from Gnostic standpoint to state the psyche as its final form was made possible by existence of differentiation, metacognition, logical rationality, clarity and potentiality.

          Now, as for Demiurge , if "productive blind fool" describes any function-part of of the psyche other than the ego (conscious standpoint that's blind and useless/malignant without involvement of other parts of the psyche), I'd like to hear about it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            now it makes more sense, thank u again

            also nice numbers

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Was it just a platonist shitpost that became part of the 1st millennium philosophical current to make irenaeus seethe uncontrollably?
    I think the best humor I have ever come across is imagining ancient people talking or at least thinking in EerieWeb/internet-lingo. Or, that it actually existed back then as language among individuals that were deep into some subject/skill/area to trigger each other.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They used graffiti as a way to proto-meme. Most of the population was illiterate but in a high-context culture where a picture could convey a story to the masses w/ hidden meanings for those in the know. What the learned men back then said to each other was probably high tier trigger bait even by EerieWeb standards.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >But what, actually, was their endgame?
    Gnosis, id imagine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Doesn't matter. Greentext or GTFO

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >But what, actually, was their endgame?
    Ascension to Heaven through Logos as a driver/replacement of Faith. Or, to put it alternatively, by Thoth-ian (Hermetic) "mental alchemy" methods.
    Just a side note, not all pre-Roman-canon Christianity sects were actually Gnostic in that sense.

  6. 1 month ago
    Cri

    >that picture
    What the frick are the admins up to in this fricking place? (This universe.) ;-;

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Some form of the tradition that would later be known as "the Gospel of Thomas" was known to both Paul and hos audience, not to mention the other non-Pauline sects of the Jesus movement. What we call "gnosticism" is actually just "all Christianities that do not descend primarily from Mark's reading of Paul", including deliberately adversarial reactions to Mark such as John.

    Their endgame was just their strain of Christianity. But the reason the umbrella term doesm't really mean anything is because it comes from an artificial separation we have imposed on an era that didn't really have it, because Iraneus did it first and we all just quote him uncritically.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Sure thang bruh

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