Give me your best logical and intellectual arguments why the Quran cannot be from God

Give me your best logical and intellectual arguments why the Quran cannot be from God

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Koran states everything was created in pairs but this does not seem to be the case because there are asexual organisms that reproduce. The whiptail lizard in the U.S. Southwest, Mexico, and South America, for instance, is an all-females species which reproduces by parthenogenesis.Fungus have way more sexes than two and viruses don't seem to need other sexes. Hermaphroties are also real and people are born that way.

    And of every thing We have created pairs: That ye may receive instruction.
    Quran 51:49
    Glory to Allah, Who created in pairs all things that the earth produces, as well as their own (human) kind and (other) things of which they have no knowledge.
    Quran 36:36
    by Him who created the male and the female:
    Quran 92:3
    Then He made of him two kinds, the male and the female.
    Quran 75:39

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      All the greatest ideas and inventions come to those human creators in pairs. Reality isn’t trusted with just one person to bring it into being, it’s given to two or more so that even if it is just a rediscovery of ancient lost tech, it has a better chance of succeeding. This is but one example of the universe and creation coming in pairs.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It is about animal species.

        The Koran does not get how shadows work.

        Hast thou not turned thy vision to thy Lord?- How He doth prolong the shadow! If He willed, He could make it stationary! then do We make the sun its guide; Then We draw it in towards Ourselves,- a contraction by easy stages.
        Quran 25:45-46

        he Earth's rotation causes these shadows to change size and lengthen. Quran 25:45-46 states that the reason shadows fluctuate in size rather than being stationary is because Allah has made the sun their guide.

        What makes it odd is all that it Allah draws towards himself. Unless, we understand Allah is the literal sun that doesn't make senes.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The Koran claims that Allah has made stars/lamps as missile weapons to ward away jinn who try to learn fate as written in the book that Allah predestines everything with, aka Qadar. That is not what stars are.

          Indeed, We have adorned the nearest heaven [al-samā’a l-dunyā] with an adornment of stars [al-kawākibi], And as protection against every rebellious devil [wa-ḥifẓan min kulli shayṭānin mārida][So] they may not listen to the exalted assembly [of angels] and are pelted from every side, Repelled; and for them is a constant punishment, Except one who snatches [some words] by theft, but they are pursued by a burning flame, piercing [in brightness] [fa-’atbaʿa-hu shihābun thāqibun].

          Quran 37:6-10

          And we have, (from of old), adorned the lowest heaven [al-samā’a l-dunyā] with lamps [bi-maṣābīḥa], and We have made such (Lamps) (as) missiles to drive away the Evil Ones [wa-jaʿalnā-hā rujūman li-l-shayāṭīni], and have prepared for them the Penalty of the Blazing Fire.

          Quran 67:5

          And we have sought [to reach] the heaven but found it filled with powerful guards [ḥarasan shadīdan] and burning flames [wa-shuhuban]. And we used to sit therein in positions for hearing, but whoever listens now will find a burning flame lying in wait for him. [yajidu la-hu shihāban raṣadan].

          Quran 72:8-9

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The Koran includes Allah mocking Jinn for not being able to make it through his missile/star barrage.

            O company of jinn and mankind, if you are able to pass beyond the regions of the heavens and the earth, then pass. You will not pass except by authority [from Allah]. So which of the favors of your Lord would you deny? There will be sent upon you a flame of fire and smoke, and you will not defend yourselves.

            Quran 55:33-35

            By the sky and the night comer - And what can make you know what is the night comer? It is the piercing star (najm) - There is no soul but that it has over it a protector.

            Quran 86:1-4

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          What is wrong with this verse? All it says is that Allah controls the sun. I honestly don't understand what you mean when you say it doesn't make sense.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            In these verses, the Quran mentions shadows being extended and shortened as guided by the sun. It suggests that the sun's movement is responsible for the changing lengths of shadows.

            On that note, the night and day share a common sky for this reason, echoing a geocentric view.

            Are ye the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; And He made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morn thereof. And after that He spread the earth,

            Quran 79:27-30

            Earth created before stars.

            Then turned He to the heaven when it was smoke, and said unto it and unto the earth: Come both of you, willingly or loth. They said: We come, obedient. Then He ordained them seven heavens in two Days and inspired in each heaven its mandate; and We decked the nether heaven with lamps, and rendered it inviolable. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Knower.

            Quran 41:11-12

            The seven heavens created after earth.

            He it is Who created for you all that is in the earth. Then turned He to the heaven, and fashioned it as seven heavens. And He is knower of all things.

            Quran 2:29

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >It suggests that the sun's movement is responsible for the changing lengths of shadows
            And it is. Are you literally 12 years old or something?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah but not because the Sun casts the shadow not because it is created separately.

            Maybe he should not take from secular literary works like the Syriac Romance? Here are a few more references to it.

            So the whole camp mounted, and Alexander and his troops went up between the fetid sea and the bright sea to the place where the sun enters the window of heaven; for the sun is the servant of the Lord, and neither by night nor by day does he cease from his travelling. The place of his rising is over the sea, and the people who dwell there, when he is about to rise, flee away and hide themselves in the sea, that they be not burnt by his rays; and he passes through the midst of the heavens to the place where he enters the window of heaven; and wherever he passes there are terrible mountains, and those who dwell there have caves hollowed out in the rocks, and as soon as they see the sun passing [over them], men and birds flee away from before him and hide in the caves, for rocks are rent by his blazing heat and fall down, and whether they be men or beasts, as soon as the stones touch them they are consumed.[2]
            The History of Alexander the Great, Being the Syriac Version, p. 148
            Then followed he (another) way, Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.

            Quran 18:89-90

            It also takes the view of Gog and Magog behind an invisible wall created by Alexander the Great, who her is a Muslim.

            Alexander said, "This mountain is higher and more terrible than all the mountains which I have seen." The old men, the natives of the country, said to the king: "Yea, by your majesty, my lord the king, neither we nor our fathers have been able to march one step in it, and men do not ascend it either on that side or on this, for it is the boundary which God has set between us and the nations within it" Alexander said, "Who are the nations within this mountain upon which we are looking? "The natives of the land said, " They are the Huns." He said to them, " Who are their kings?" The old men. said: "Gog and Magog..."

            Alexander said to the natives of that country," Have they come forth to spoil in your days?" The old men answered and said to the king: "May God establish thy kingdom and thy crown, my lord the king! These fortresses which have been overturned in our lands and in the lands of the Romans, have been overthrown by them; by them have these towers been uprooted; when they go forth to spoil, they ravage the land of the Romans and of the Persians, and then they enter their own territory."[2]
            The History of Alexander the Great, Being the Syriac Version, pp. 149-150, 152

            They said: "O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?"

            Quran 18:94

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            More on Gog and Magog.

            When Alexander had heard what the old men said, he marveled greatly at the great sea which surrounded all creation; and Alexander said to his troops, " Do ye desire that we should do something wonderful in this land?" They said to him, "As thy majesty commands we will do." The king said, "Let us make a gate of brass and close up this breach."[2]
            The History of Alexander the Great, Being the Syriac Version, p. 153

            He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them

            We also don't find anywhere there giant brass walls. Which most likely would not have survived at all by now.

            And Alexander commanded and fetched three thousand smiths, workers in iron, and three thousand men, workers in brass And they put down brass and iron, and kneaded it as a man kneads when he works clay. Then they brought it and made a gate, the length of which was twelve cubits and its breadth eight cubits. And he made a lower threshold from mountain to mountain, the length of which was twelve cubits;[2]
            The History of Alexander the Great, Being the Syriac Version, p. 153

            "Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead [brass]."
            Quran 18:96
            Quran 18:95

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It also cannot be destroyed for reasons. Which does not make sense of what we know of brass.

            He fixed the gate and the bolts, and he placed nails of iron and beat them down one by the other, so that if the Huns came and dug out the rock which was under the threshold of iron, even if footmen were able to pass through, a horse with its rider would be unable to pass, so long as the gate that was hammered down with bolts stood.[2]

            The History of Alexander the Great, Being the Syriac Version, p. 153

            Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it

            Quran 18:97

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah but not because the Sun casts the shadow not because it is created separately.
            I am having a real hard time understanding your english

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yeah but not because the Sun casts the shadow not because it is created separately.
            What did you mean by this?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            https://i.imgur.com/Gq7Uj4o.jpeg

            >It suggests that the sun's movement is responsible for the changing lengths of shadows
            And it is. Are you literally 12 years old or something?

            https://www.sciencelearn.org.nz/resources/2771-light-and-shadows
            > The Sun’s position in the sky affects the length of the shadow. When the Sun is low on the horizon, the shadows are long. When the Sun is high in the sky, the shadows are much shorter. We can create the same effects indoors by changing the position of a torch as it shines on an object.
            This is basic kindergarten physics

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Ants don't talk to people.

    At length, when they came to a (lowly) valley of ants, one of the ants said: "O ye ants, get into your habitations, lest Solomon and his hosts crush you (under foot) without knowing it." So he smiled, amused at her speech; and he said: "O my Lord! so order me that I may be grateful for Thy favours, which thou hast bestowed on me and on my parents, and that I may work the righteousness that will please Thee: And admit me, by Thy Grace, to the ranks of Thy righteous Servants."

    Quran 27:18-19

    Allah apparently claims that there are only four types of cattle in existence. There are a lot more than that.

    He created you from one being, then from that (being) He made its mate; and He hath provided for you of cattle eight kinds. He created you in the wombs of your mothers, creation after creation, in a threefold gloom. Such is Allah, your Lord. His is the Sovereignty. There is no Allah save Him. How then are ye turned away
    Quran 39:6
    And of the cattle (He produceth) some for burdens, some for food. Eat of that which Allah hath bestowed upon you, and follow not the footsteps of the devil, for lo! he is an open foe to you. Eight pairs: Of the sheep twain, and of the goats twain. Say: Hath He forbidden the two males or the two females, or that which the wombs of the two females contain? Expound to me (the case) with knowledge, if ye are truthful. And of the camels twain and of the oxen twain. Say: Hath He forbidden the two males or the two females, or that which the wombs of the two females contain; or were ye by to witness when Allah commanded you (all) this? Then who doth greater wrong than he who deviseth a lie concerning Allah, that he may lead mankind astray without knowledge. Lo! Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk.
    Quran 6:142-144

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      There are only 4 types of cattle...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        From Wiki, this is not a controversial take either.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cattle_breeds

        "Over 1000 breeds of cattle are recognized worldwide, some of which adapted to the local climate, others which were bred by humans for specialized uses"

        This is because Allah did not know about evolution.

        The Koran includes the claim that Nabetean rock tombs are as old as the pharaohs. It also makes the error thinking they are homes. This is not the case.The tombs were made by Nabateans from the 2nd century BCE to the 2nd century CE, not before the time of the Pharaohs

        And a believing man from the family of Pharaoh who concealed his faith said [...] And he who believed said, "O my people, indeed I fear for you [a fate] like the day of the companies - Like the custom of the people of Noah and of 'Aad and Thamud and those after them. And Allah wants no injustice for [His] servants.
        Quran 40:28-31

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >breeds
          Look at subspecies you idiot. Anyone can make a breed of anything. Do you think the ragdoll cat existed in ancient times?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe the Koran should be actually clear and literal like it claims it is? Would have been nice to describe contemporary Neo-Darwinian synthesis right?

            The Koran also assumes geocentrism.

            A token unto them is night. We strip it of the day, and lo! they are in darkness. And the sun runneth on unto a resting-place for him. That is the measuring of the Mighty, the Wise. And for the moon We have appointed mansions till she return like an old shrivelled palm-leaf. It is not for the sun to overtake the moon, nor doth the night outstrip the day. They float each in an orbit.

            Qur'an 36:37-40

            The Sun and Moon are two separate bodies.

            Hast thou not seen how Allah causeth the night to pass into the day and causeth the day to pass into the night, and hath subdued the sun and the moon (to do their work), each running unto an appointed term; and that Allah is Informed of what ye do?

            Quran 31:29

            By the Sun and his (glorious) splendour; By the Moon as she follows him;

            Qur'an 91:1-2

            The Koran repeats a secular Syraic story from the Syraic Romance of Alexander about Alexander the Great about where the sun sets.

            Till, when he reached the setting-place of the sun, he found it setting in a muddy spring, and found a people thereabout. We said: O Dhu'l-Qarneyn! Either punish or show them kindness.
            Quran 18:86
            Till, when he reached the rising-place of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had appointed no shelter therefrom.

            Quran 18:90

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >he found it setting in a muddy spring
            It's not literally you moron. We even use this phrasing today. The sun setting in the horizon for example doesn't mean it's literally setting in the horizon. Are you moronic?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Maybe he should not take from secular literary works like the Syriac Romance? Here are a few more references to it.

            So the whole camp mounted, and Alexander and his troops went up between the fetid sea and the bright sea to the place where the sun enters the window of heaven; for the sun is the servant of the Lord, and neither by night nor by day does he cease from his travelling. The place of his rising is over the sea, and the people who dwell there, when he is about to rise, flee away and hide themselves in the sea, that they be not burnt by his rays; and he passes through the midst of the heavens to the place where he enters the window of heaven; and wherever he passes there are terrible mountains, and those who dwell there have caves hollowed out in the rocks, and as soon as they see the sun passing [over them], men and birds flee away from before him and hide in the caves, for rocks are rent by his blazing heat and fall down, and whether they be men or beasts, as soon as the stones touch them they are consumed.[2]
            The History of Alexander the Great, Being the Syriac Version, p. 148
            Then followed he (another) way, Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.

            Quran 18:89-90

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It’s followers are tend to be literal animals

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Koran claims that all beings exist in communities. That is not true there are species of organism that live by themselves or can't communicate to live or exist in a community.

    There is not an animal (that lives) on the earth, nor a being that flies on its wings, but (forms part of) communities like you. Nothing have we omitted from the Book, and they (all) shall be gathered to their Lord in the end.

    The Koran claims that the Islamic David, created mail armor. The Celts and Scythians did.

    And assuredly We gave David grace from Us, (saying): O ye hills and birds, echo his psalms of praise! And We made the iron supple unto him, Saying: Make thou long coats of mail and measure the links (thereof). And do ye right. Lo! I am Seer of what ye do.
    Quran 34:10-11
    And We made Solomon to understand (the case); and unto each of them We gave judgment and knowledge. And we subdued the hills and the birds to hymn (His) praise along with David. We were the doers (thereof). And We taught him the art of making garments (of mail) to protect you in your daring. Are ye then thankful?
    Quran 21:79-80

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Allah did not know how to math in his inheritance laws.

      4.11: Allah (thus) directs you as regards your Children's (Inheritance): to the male, a portion equal to that of two females: if only daughters, two or more, their share is two-thirds of the inheritance; if only one, her share is a half. For parents, a sixth share of the inheritance to each, if the deceased left children; if no children, and the parents are the (only) heirs, the mother has a third; if the deceased Left brothers (or sisters) the mother has a sixth. (The distribution in all cases ('s) after the payment of legacies and debts. Ye know not whether your parents or your children are nearest to you in benefit. These are settled portions ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Al-wise.

      4.12: In what your wives leave, your share is a half, if they leave no child; but if they leave a child, ye get a fourth; after payment of legacies and debts. In what ye leave, their share is a fourth, if ye leave no child; but if ye leave a child, they get an eighth; after payment of legacies and debts. If the man or woman whose inheritance is in question, has left neither ascendants nor descendants, but has left a brother or a sister, each one of the two gets a sixth; but if more than two, they share in a third; after payment of legacies and debts; so that no loss is caused (to any one). Thus is it ordained by Allah; and Allah is All-knowing, Most Forbearing.

      Quran 4:11-12

      The shares of inheritance outlined in the Koran do not add up to one, and there is no way to reconcile the shares presented. The Koran is supposed to be the eternal and unchanging text that is clear and literal.

      Wife: 1/8 = 3/24,
      Daughters: 2/3 = 16/24,
      Father: 1/6 = 4/24,
      Mother: 1/6 = 4/24,
      Total = 27/24=1.125

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >there are species of organism that live by themselves or can't communicate to live or exist in a community.
      Such as?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Solitary wasp. Unlike social wasps, which live in colonies, solitary wasps live and operate alone. They do not form nests with other wasps, and each female builds her own nest, cares for her own young, and hunts independently.

        Solitary wasps exhibit behaviors that do not involve interacting with others of their species beyond mating. This individualistic lifestyle is a defining characteristic, distinguishing them from community-living organisms like ants, bees, and social wasps.

        Solitary wasps can be found in various environments, and their nesting habits and hunting behaviors are adapted to their solitary nature, showcasing a clear example of an organism that does not rely on a community structure for survival. Maybe you want to state they mate and that counts. Not really a community but what about amoebas. They reproduce via binary fission. They also live at the bottom of the sea.

        Who was the first Muslim?

        Muhammad

        Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only). And I am commanded to be the first of those who are muslims (surrender unto Him).

        Quran 39:11-12

        Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender (unto Him). And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters.

        Quran 6:14

        No, it is Noah.

        And if you turn away [from my advice] then no payment have I asked of you. My reward is only from Allah, and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims."

        Quran 10:72

        No, it is in the time of Abraham.

        And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you "Muslims" before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people. So establish prayer and give zakah and hold fast to Allah. He is your protector; and excellent is the protector, and excellent is the helper.

        Quran 22:78

        How strong is a believer?

        20 Muslims can overcome 200 disbelievers

        If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve

        Quran 8:65

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          No, 100 Muslims can overcome 200 disbelievers actually.

          So if there be of you a steadfast hundred they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a thousand (steadfast) they shall overcome two thousand by permission of Allah.

          Quran 8:66

          How many sacred months are there?

          Four sacred months.

          The number of months in the sight of Allah is twelve (in a year)- so ordained by Him the day He created the heavens and the earth; of them four are sacred: that is the straight usage. So wrong not yourselves therein, and fight the Pagans all together as they fight you all together. But know that Allah is with those who restrain themselves.
          Quran 9:36

          No, actually it is one.

          O ye who believe! Violate not the sanctity of the symbols of Allah, nor of the sacred month, nor of the animals brought for sacrifice, nor the garlands that mark out such animals, nor the people resorting to the sacred house, seeking of the bounty and good pleasure of their Lord. But when ye are clear of the sacred precincts and of pilgrim garb, ye may hunt and let not the hatred of some people in (once) shutting you out of the Sacred Mosque lead you to transgression (and hostility on your part). Help ye one another in righteousness and piety, but help ye not one another in sin and rancour: fear Allah: for Allah is strict in punishment.

          Quran 5:2

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Who sends disbelievers astray?

            Iblis or the devil.

            (Iblis) said: "O my Lord! because Thou hast put me in the wrong, I will make (wrong) fair-seeming to them on the earth, and I will put them all in the wrong

            Quran 15:39

            No, it is Allah.

            No soul can believe except by the will of Allah

            Quran 10:100

            Then is one to whom the evil of his deed has been made attractive so he considers it good [like one rightly guided]? For indeed, Allah sends astray whom He wills and guides whom He wills. So do not let yourself perish over them in regret. Indeed, Allah is Knowing of what they do.

            Quran 35:8

            No, actually they did it to themselves.

            Hath not the story reached them of those before them?- the People of Noah, and 'Ad, and Thamud; the People of Abraham, the men of Midian, and the cities overthrown. To them came their messengers with clear signs. It is not Allah Who wrongs them, but they wrong their own souls.

            Quran 9:70

            Eitherway, their fault.

            It was not Allah who wronged them, but they wronged their own souls

            Quran 30:9

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          A family is also a community

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I guess, Allah should have mentioned sociology then rather in terms of biology.

            Who brought revelation to Muhammad?

            The Holy spirit

            Say, the Holy Spirit has brought the revelation from thy Lord in Truth, in order to strengthen those who believe, and as a Guide and Glad Tidings to Muslims

            Quran 16:102

            No, actually it was the Angel Jibreel.

            Say (O Muhammad, to mankind): Who is an enemy to Gabriel! For he it is who hath revealed (this Scripture) to thy heart by Allah's leave, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, and a guidance and glad tidings to believers;

            Quran 2:97

            How long does it take to wean a child.

            30 months

            We have enjoined on man kindness to his parents: In pain did his mother bear him, and in pain did she give him birth. The carrying of the (child) to his weaning is (a period of) thirty months. At length, when he reaches the age of full strength and attains forty years, he says, "O my Lord! Grant me that I may be grateful for Thy favour which Thou has bestowed upon me, and upon both my parents, and that I may work righteousness such as Thou mayest approve; and be gracious to me in my issue. Truly have I turned to Thee and truly do I bow (to Thee) in Islam."

            Quran 46:15

            No, actually 24 months

            And We have enjoined upon man concerning his partners - His mother beareth him in weakness upon weakness, and his weaning is in two years - Give thanks unto Me and unto thy parents. Unto Me is the journeying

            Quran 31:14

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The holy spirit is angel Gabriel you nitwit

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            That is not true and it is big deal that it is not. This is because the Holy Spirit impregnates Mary in Islam and source of life in the creation of Adam. That would become quite an issue if it was Gabriel.

            So, when I have made him and have breathed into him of My Spirit, do ye fall down, prostrating yourselves unto him.

            Quran 15:29

            Such is the Knower of the Invisible and the Visible, the Mighty, the Merciful, Who made all things good which He created, and He began the creation of man from clay; Then He made his seed from a draught of despised fluid; Then He fashioned him and breathed into him of His Spirit; and appointed for you hearing and sight and hearts. Small thanks give ye!

            Quran 32:6-9

            Here we see it identified with Allah too in some sense in the act of creation.

            And when I have fashioned him and breathed into him of My Spirit, then fall down before him prostrate,

            Quran 38:72

            And she who was chaste, therefor We breathed into her (something) of Our Spirit and made her and her son a token for (all) peoples.

            Quran 21:91

            And Mary, daughter of 'Imran, whose body was chaste, therefor We breathed therein something of Our Spirit. And she put faith in the words of her Lord and His scriptures, and was of the obedient.

            Quran 66:12

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            One way to think about it is that it is hazy some Islamic sources say it is , some don't. This pops up more you add tafsir. In Islam he relays to the message to Muhammad. A lot of that is more apparent in the Hadith.

            Say (O Muhammad, to mankind): Who is an enemy to Gabriel! For he it is who hath revealed (this Scripture) to thy heart by Allah's leave, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, and a guidance and glad tidings to believers; Who is an enemy to Allah, and His angels and His messengers, and Gabriel and Michael! Then, lo! Allah (Himself) is an enemy to the disbelievers.
            Quran 2:97-98

            Gabriel supports Muhammad's military endeavors.

            If ye twain turn unto Allah repentant, (ye have cause to do so) for your hearts desired (the ban); and if ye aid one another against him (Muhammad) then lo! Allah, even He, is his Protecting Friend, and Gabriel and the righteous among the believers; and furthermore the angels are his helpers.

            Quran 66:04

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here are some materials on Jibreel, technically Gabriel is a figure in Christianity.

            Jibreel was very aggressive and caused Muhammad pain.

            The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet replied, "I do not know how to read.
            The Prophet added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, 'I do not know how to read.' Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time till I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, 'I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?' Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, 'Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists) has created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous." (96.1, 96.2, 96.3)

            Then Allah's Apostle returned with the Inspiration and with his heart beating severely. Then he went to Khadija bint Khuwailid and said, "Cover me! Cover me!" They covered him till his fear was over and after that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me."

            Sahih Bukhari 1:1:3

            He commanded Muhammad to raid people and kill.

            Narrated 'Aisha: When Allah's Apostle returned on the day (of the battle) of Al-Khandaq (i.e. Trench), he put down his arms and took a bath. Then Gabriel whose head was covered with dust, came to him saying, "You have put down your arms! By Allah, I have not put down my arms yet." Allah's Apostle said, "Where (to go now)?" Gabriel said, "This way," pointing towards the tribe of Bani Quraiza. So Allah's Apostle went out towards them.

            Sahih Bukhari 4:52:68

            He received revelations when he hard the ringing of a bell that hurt him and at times made him fall over.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            All Hadith are classed sahih and considered authoritative by Sunni Muslims.

            Narrated 'Aisha: (the mother of the faithful believers) Al-Harith bin Hisham asked Allah's Apostle "O Allah's Apostle! How is the Divine Inspiration revealed to you?" Allah's Apostle replied, "Sometimes it is (revealed) like the ringing of a bell, this form of Inspiration is the hardest of all and then this state passes ' off after I have grasped what is inspired. Sometimes the Angel comes in the form of a man and talks to me and I grasp whatever he says." 'Aisha added: Verily I saw the Prophet being inspired Divinely on a very cold day and noticed the Sweat dropping from his forehead (as the Inspiration was over).

            Sahih Bukhari 1:1:2

            Narrated Aisha: Al Harith bin Hisham asked the Prophet, "How does the divine inspiration come to you?" He replied, "In all these ways: The Angel sometimes comes to me with a voice which resembles the sound of a ringing bell, and when this state abandons me, I remember what the Angel has said, and this type of Divine Inspiration is the hardest on me; and sometimes the Angel comes to me in the shape of a man and talks to me, and I understand and remember what he says."

            Sahih Bukhari 4:54:438

            The sound itself was identified by both Muslims and pagans with demons though.

            Narrated Umm Habibah: The Prophet (peace be upon him) said: The angels do not go with a travelling company in which there is a bell.

            Sunan Abu Dawud 14:2548

            Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab: Ibn az-Zubayr told that a woman client of theirs took az-Zubayr's daughter to Umar ibn al-Khattab wearing bells on her legs. Umar cut them off and said that he had heard the Apostle of Allah (peace be upon him) say: There is a devil along with each bell.

            Sunan Abu Dawud 34:4218
            Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The bell is the musical instrument of the Satan.

            Sahih Muslim 24:5279

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It actually sounds like epilepsy. He also would cold shivers, and sweat. There is a whole lot more of symptoms he displayed including becoming very depressed sucidal, grinding his teeth, having trouble breathing, turning red, having neck muscles pop out etc.

            hat Al-Harith bin Hisham asked the Prophet (ﷺ): 'How does the Revelation come to you?' The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) said: 'Sometimes it comes to me like the ringing of a bell and that is the hardest upon me, and sometimes the angel will appear to me like a man, and he will speak to me such that I understand what he says.'" 'Aishah said: "I saw the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) while the Revelation was descending upon him on an extremely cold day. Then it ceased and his forehead was flooded with sweat."

            Vol. 1, Book 46, Hadith 3634

            Here is a seven episode series looking at sirah, Hadith and more.

            https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBhSsGcWqsZ7Z--bKEjzqHlRyD6IhN25d

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I too would feel like that if an angel of the lord spoke to me. Wouldn't you?

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Koran assumes seven earths.

    lah it is who hath created seven heavens, and of the earth the like thereof. The commandment cometh down among them slowly, that ye may know that Allah is Able to do all things, and that Allah surroundeth all things in knowledge.

    Quran 65:12

    It assumes seven heavens.

    See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another.

    Quran 71:15

    Allah is said to be both everywhere but also located on his throne, and also implicitly in the Kaaba as well.

    Allah - there is no deity except Him, the Ever-Living, the Sustainer of [all] existence. Neither drowsiness overtakes Him nor sleep. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. Who is it that can intercede with Him except by His permission? He knows what is [presently] before them and what will be after them, and they encompass not a thing of His knowledge except for what He wills. His Kursi extends over the heavens and the earth, and their preservation tires Him not. And He is the Most High, the Most Great.

    Quran 2:255

    When My servants ask thee concerning Me, I am indeed close (to them): I listen to the prayer of every suppliant when he calleth on Me: Let them also, with a will, Listen to My call, and believe in Me: That they may walk in the right way.

    Quran 2:186

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Allah can be both be seen and not seen.

    No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things.

    Quran 6:103

    swear by the star when it goes down.Your companion does not err, nor does he go astray; Nor does he speak out of desire. It is naught but revelation that is revealed, The Lord of Mighty Power has taught him, The Lord of Strength; so he attained completion, And he is in the highest part of the horizon. Then he drew near, then he bowed. So he was the measure of two bows or closer still. And He revealed to His servant what He revealed. The heart was not untrue in (making him see) what he saw. What! do you then dispute with him as to what he saw? And certainly he saw him in another descent, At the farthest lote-tree; Near which is the garden, the place to be resorted to. When that which covers covered the lote-tree; The eye did not turn aside, nor did it exceed the limit. Certainly he saw of the greatest signs of his Lord.

    Quran 53:1-18

    It is not fitting for a man that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration, or from behind a veil, or by the sending of a messenger to reveal, with Allah's permission, what Allah wills: for He is Most High, Most Wise

    Quran 42:51

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Can Allah have a child?

    No

    Yet they ascribe as partners unto Him the jinn, although He did create them, and impute falsely, without knowledge, sons and daughters unto Him. Glorified be He and High Exalted above (all) that they ascribe (unto Him). The Originator of the heavens and the earth! How can He have a child, when there is for Him no consort, when He created all things and is Aware of all things?

    Quran 6:100-101

    Yes

    Surely pure religion is for Allah only. And those who choose protecting friends beside Him (say): We worship them only that they may bring us near unto Allah. Lo! Allah will judge between them concerning that wherein they differ. Lo! Allah guideth not him who is a liar, an ingrate. If Allah had willed to choose a son, He could have chosen what He would have that which He hath created. Be He Glorified! He is Allah, the One, the Absolute.

    Quran 39:3-4

    How many angels helped Muhammad at Badr?

    3000

    Remember thou saidst to the Faithful: "Is it not enough for you that Allah should help you with three thousand angels (Specially) sent down?

    Quran 3:124

    1000

    Remember ye implored the assistance of your Lord, and He answered you: "I will assist you with a thousand of the angels, ranks on ranks."

    Quran 8:9

    You might say that refers to the battle of Uhud, but that would be weird because Muslims lost that battle and why would Allah be saying what he does then?

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't remember writing it

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Who was the first Muslim?

    Muhammad

    Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only). And I am commanded to be the first of those who are muslims (surrender unto Him).

    Quran 39:11-12

    Say: Shall I choose for a protecting friend other than Allah, the Originator of the heavens and the earth, Who feedeth and is never fed? Say: I am ordered to be the first to surrender (unto Him). And be not thou (O Muhammad) of the idolaters.

    Quran 6:14

    No, it is Noah.

    And if you turn away [from my advice] then no payment have I asked of you. My reward is only from Allah, and I have been commanded to be of the Muslims."

    Quran 10:72

    No, it is in the time of Abraham.

    And strive for Allah with the striving due to Him. He has chosen you and has not placed upon you in the religion any difficulty. [It is] the religion of your father, Abraham. Allah named you "Muslims" before [in former scriptures] and in this [revelation] that the Messenger may be a witness over you and you may be witnesses over the people. So establish prayer and give zakah and hold fast to Allah. He is your protector; and excellent is the protector, and excellent is the helper.

    Quran 22:78

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Anything that promotes only (male) carnal lusts can't be from God.

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    it was written by a man, not god. If a god wanted to create a book, they'd just make it, they wouldn't "inspire" a human to write it.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The reason why God didn't just write a book and give us is because we would interpret it in many ways. That's why he gave revelations to prophets. Human beings that could not only speak the word of God but also live it, and tell us and show us how we could do it to. The Quran in itself is "useless" without the prophets, all the way from Adam to Muhammed.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So he wouldn't be capable of writing a book that doesn't involve interpretations? Also, would these messages from prophets not be up for interpretation because I dunno if you know this, many people interpret the koran and the bible and the torah, it's generally agreed upon that there are many interpretations of each.
        I would think an all powerful god could create a book without need of humans that would not be left to intepretation.

        the koran was written by men who wanted to rule other humans and have put themselves in the place of god, not as a conduit.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Technically, there is not supposed to be in the case of Islam. One of the seals of Prophethood is this literalist clarity. There also is supposed to be no variation at all, which theoretically rules out hurufs and Qirat in theory but not dogmatically for Muslims because not every Aqedah is theoretically authentic or capable of leading a practioner to salvation.

          (This is) a Book, whose verses are made decisive, then are they made plain, from the Wise, All-aware:

          Quran 11:1

          It is described to be in detail. Oddly, enough it doesn't say a lot of things like how to do the actual 5 prayers in Islam though either or all the narratives in the Sirah and Hadith that are used.

          Say], "Then is it other than Allah I should seek as judge while it is He who has revealed to you the Book explained in detail?" And those to whom We [previously] gave the Scripture know that it is sent down from your Lord in truth, so never be among the doubters.

          Quran 6:114

          And [mention] the Day when We will resurrect among every nation a witness over them from themselves. And We will bring you, [O Muhammad], as a witness over your nation. And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims.

          Quran 16:89

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So without a living prophet, doesn't the koran become useless? Because only a prophet has the clarity no?
            And again I ask, how is it that an all powerful being could not create a book that would be left to interpretation?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            The official Islamic view, is no. Islam claims that all is necessary is the Koran but implies that the life of the Prophet is enough with it. This means traditional Aqedah following Muslims follow the Koran, Sirah, Hadith, although, from a practical view you are right. There is no way for any Muslim to know they are in the right Aqedah or even if the consonantal skeleton they have is correct.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            at least you can admit it.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            There are also internal contradictions within the Koran as shown above, internal contradictions within the Hadith and differing narratives in the Sirah, although going by the earliest Ibn Ishaq can kinda help on that front. In reality, there is no way to justify the choices made in the unity outside of just kinda deciding to read or interpret them a certain way.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Here is a good detailed talk about academic literature on Koran variants.

            Here is a good video about the earliest manuscript we have, the Sana'a manuscript.

            If you want to see some of the difference in the major variants feel free to take a look at this website. The most common one found in the west are derived from the Cairo edition or King Fu'ād Quran.

            https://quranvariants.wordpress.com

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Muhammed married a 6 year old and consummated at 9 years old.

    Is the best man that ever lived a pedophile? No, the best man that ever lived is God in the flesh.
    The Ghoron cannot be understood by those who speak Arabic, even the scholars who know classical Arabic will admit it doesn't make sense.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because its written in a language in which the speakers constantly sound like they're hawking up loogies, hacking up phlegm, or letting their tongue fall down their throat due to some kind of seizure. they literally all sound like genuinely moronic people who are having a seizure while trying to imitate Arnold Schwarzeneger

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Its written in Arabic.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Ha

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You don't need to argue with them UK bro you need to kill them

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