Free will

How am I supposed to live knowing that free will is an illusion? Nothing is my own, not even the impulse to do stuff or the thoughts in my head. I am just a droplet in the ocean, doing the will of GOD (whether or not I'm conscious of it).

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  1. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have free will. Not everything is determined.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It does not make me feel any better knowing that I can make some small choices here and there if, in the long term, I'll still end up in the same place I'm destined to end up in.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Really? Knowing that the end is determined makes me feel free. No matter what choice I make, I know that it can only lead me closer to that destiny, and that nothing can hurt me until the predetermined time arrives.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Absolute truth.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Free will is a contradiction in itself. It can't exist

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It's exists as a measure of freedom from physical constraint. Everything is still ultimately determined by God.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          If it's freedom from physical constraint, it's random, i.e. not under your control

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, in the manifest plane, you can control everything that isn't forbidden by physics or by the plot of the storyteller.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It doesn't matter. Your will is either determined by external causes or it's random. Neither can be controlled.
            Why did you choose to do something? It's either because of outside influence or you decided to just wing it and do something random. If you go deep enough every decision is like that. You can't describe a "free" will that doesn't work like that

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Your will is either determined by external causes or it's random.
            Wrong. Randomness does not exist. It only appears to exist within the manifest image.

            >Why did you choose to do something? It's either because of outside influence or you decided to just wing it and do something random. If you go deep enough every decision is like that. You can't describe a "free" will that doesn't work like that
            No, there are generally multiple paths available to you on the small scale. Not enough to change your predetermined destiny in the grand scheme, but enough to allow personal variation in means.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Nta. You can use quantum rng to get out of the deterministic nature of irl. Essentially you entangle your actions to quantum measurement. Only conscious sapient entities can do it. Ex measure spin
            If up do x
            If down do y

            You break out of determinism into a new deterministic world line. But the more you do this the crazier reality gets. It's likely due to quantum gravity. If one of you went left and one went right the difference will be pulled together and it breaks determinism.

            But reality will get very hostile and the more you do it the more outrageous the universe autocorrects.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            So thats why realitys been getting more and more absurd

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah LHC is causing complex results and they are acting depending on the quantum result

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >LHC is causing complex results
            It's causes whatever results are intended by immaterial entities.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you are the expression of the infinite in a finite form (a human body and lifetime), you and the infinite are still not separate. You would be an infinitely small expression of infinity, as the finite form is gone (seeming physical death) you simply return to your true infinite nature where nothing is limited. And an infinity small thing is still, infinite. An infinite thing can choose to express itself in infinite ways.

  2. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >>I have been engaging in spiritual warfare with matpat for 3 real world days now, its a war of attrition not of glorious all-or-nothing battles. He has a problem with his hearing so simply setting my tulpas to whisper harmful secrets into his ears when he sleeps like the cheese meister I am simply doesn't work, and the work arounds are time/resource intensive. I've recently been undercuting other anons consciousness to help empower the tulpamancy and keep the lights on in the thoughtform sigilization sub-basement but if I don't actively steal the life force from the grass at the local park I might risk being in the red this month.
    Madness and True Faith with cold calculation and esotericism isn't comparable to something normies would understand.
    >Keep in mind I'm not a person that engages with /x/ at face value but it is a goldmine for World of Darkness inspiration. Without /x/ as inspiration, more than half of my tabletop sesions would be based on made for television horror short stories I grew up watching.

  3. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    God can't even tie his shoelaces after going senile.

  4. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Actors are given room to improvise. They just can't change the plot.

  5. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you're supposed to live a lot easier with this realization

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I guess all I can do is try and guess what GOD has in store for me, so I'm better prepared to accept it when it happens. So he does not have to bash me with his rod to make me understand.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all we have is awareness, or the capacity for awareness. merely be aware

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      this b like how youre supposed to be free after realizing life is suffering or "lol just think death is like before u were born u did that its not scary"
      Course not its cripplingly terrifying lmao

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        it's almost like buddhism is a response to suffering

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          But its not freeing, just empty promises

  6. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You are a discontiguous individual subjective experiencer.
    You have an infinite amount of freewill now, but you are currently constrained in a human body. The depth of your will, will be known when you leave that form.

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  7. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why do you think the will of GOD is completely outside your grasp? It's silly to say you *are* God, but God has made a part of creation that we call "you." Creation obeys laws, and under those laws the present determines the future; this also applies to your will.

  8. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can go out right now and rape a girl and claim it was GOD's will and that you were destined to do it.
    You had no choice.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Of course you had a choice.

      God willed the choice be offered to you, God willed the outcome of your decision, and God wills that you be held accountable for it.

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >God created the entire universe and me just so I would rape that girl
        What a twisted way to see the world.

  9. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Free will might exist if consciousness collapses the wavefunction.

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Consciousness is just behavior

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Truly awful infographic. Whoever made it knows nothing.

  10. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Not even God, just random particle motions

  11. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I feel like people who insist that free will is illusory are refusing to have a consistent definition of "self." You can't say "you aren't making decisions, the things you do are just the result of your genetics and environment" any more than you can say "you don't have a body, the flesh you see is just things you ate"

    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      If you had free will, you could never be addicted, and you would have that six pack

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        if you had a body, you'd never get sick, and you wouldn't need to eat or breathe

      • 3 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >If you had free will, you could never be addicted
        You are not the Ego.

        • 3 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That literally means self

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            it means "I", not self. It is the part of one that claims selfhood over the other parts; the functions of the mind that assess themselves as being above other functions.

          • 3 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            It means an individual local self, separate from the one universal self. In that sense, it is illusory.

  12. 3 weeks ago
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    • 3 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Wow thanks butthole I hate it

  13. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    you are loved and have much to offer. the point of life is just to live it. that's all

  14. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You still have free will, but recognize its limitation, as you are a limited being.
    You can choose to accept that you have no control.
    Or you can choose to think you are in control.
    God will never remove this choice from you.
    Of course, this choice doesnt affect anything, which is why it is free.

  15. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Free will is True - however God always knew what path we were going to take. It is as such that Calvin and Luther were both correct - but you only get that theology in orthodox Christianity.

  16. 3 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    At least it is true that no one else is free.

    But there are no free or unfree wills, since causality is also an illusion. There are only strong and weak wills.

    But a strong will just signifies a great difference in degree between that particular will and the rest of your desires.

    How then might we create strong wills? For individuals on a small time scale, this is difficult. However, we can create the conditions that might select for strong wills, facilitating the evolution of the species. Example: by allowing drugs, junk food, and porn, an environmental pressure is introduced. Over time, those who resist these temptations will be more successful, and thus individuals with strong wills would proliferate in the gene pool.

    Man is something to be surpassed. What have you done to surpass man?

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