Eternal self

Is there a name for the idea that we could or should resist being reabsorbed into the source?
You hear the term “left hand path”, but this is more connected to breaking taboos in the original tantric practice.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    And how many religions actually believe in being absorbed into the source?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Orthodox Christianity (hesychasm), A Course In Miracles Christianity (pretty much the only thing it's about actually), Neoplatonism (henosis), Hermeticism, Thelema, Advaita Vedanta, various other Hindu sects, Sufism... dunno if Buddhist no-self counts

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The term for it is called truth.

    It's fairly easy to refute that idea. Am I correct in guessing that this is about people who claim everything is "oneness"?

    If so, then just point out that if you have to be "re-absorbed" into oneness it would mean you're currently separate from it. And if anything can be separate from it then everything is not oneness.
    So the very idea contradicts itself.

    One thing I can say with absolute certainty is that if the truth is some form of "oneness" then the way you find that oneness is by seeking what you are.
    Everyone who believes seeking oneness means giving up yourself is unknowingly seeking something which is not oneness.

    This also means that any true idea of "oneness" must be completely bizarre beyond human comprehension. It's not the mundane idea that most people have where oneness = merging into a single conscious perspective on everything, forever. That's an ugly idea, born of darkness. It's a deception to make spiritual people think they're progressing toward the answer when really they're going the wrong way away from the true self.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > If so, then just point out that if you have to be "re-absorbed" into oneness it would mean you're currently separate from it. And if anything can be separate from it then everything is not oneness
      Exactly.
      > That's an ugly idea, born of darkness.
      It seems to be the dominate one around here for some reason.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Dvaita Vedanta argues it is not possible.
    Gaudiya Vaishnava has direct quoted sentiments saying merging into transcendence is abhorrent because they prefer the relationship, which is not possible with only one.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Dvaita Vedanta argues it is not possible
      Jainism too right?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Don't know. Don't follow Dvaita as well; I lean toward the synthesis schools.

        > because they prefer the relationship, which is not possible with only one.
        Exactly, oneness sounds like hell.

        Why be the ocean when you can swim in it?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Jainism envisions that it is impossible as well. Basically each jiva in Jainism is an eternal substance that exists independently of each other and there is no essence to merge with

        .

        Orthodox Christianity (hesychasm), A Course In Miracles Christianity (pretty much the only thing it's about actually), Neoplatonism (henosis), Hermeticism, Thelema, Advaita Vedanta, various other Hindu sects, Sufism... dunno if Buddhist no-self counts

        Buddhism rejects it, you are no essence to begin with in their account. There is also no essence to merge with that is eternal and permanent.

        Sufism holds that you maintain your souls .
        individuality in relation to God as a being that is an idea his mind. Saying you become anything in relation to Allah is a nice way to get killed in many Islamic countries. Eastern Orthodox Hesychasm is similar about maintaining indvidiaulity. Neoplatonism would though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > because they prefer the relationship, which is not possible with only one.
      Exactly, oneness sounds like hell.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        my experiences of it on high doses of psychedelics always involved an enormous sense of loneliness

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There is Oneness within God, that still preserves your individuality. Christian writers from C. S Lewis have spoken about it. God desires no slaves, he wants sons that are united within his goodness but still distinct entities. Heaven is God's presence, aka, his Love.

    Then there is perverse Oneness within Hell. Remember, Satan can only perverse and corrupt things, so his version of Oneness is robbing human souls of agency and individuality by melting subtle bodies into screaming slag by supernatural hatred and darkness and using it as an energy source.

    Satan has cut himself off from God, so he and the rest of the Fallen eat the divine residue within souls of the damned. He is like deep sea fish feeding on moral detritus floating into his domain of evil.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      grotesque and fake

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >There is Oneness within God, that still preserves your individuality.
      This is in accordance to the synthesis schools of Vedanta.
      >Dvaitadvaita - the One is both Isvara and Maya/Jiva together
      >Visisthadvaita - the One imagines some part of One separate, and One's imagination is reality for eternity
      >Acintya Bedhabheda - The Oneness is true, the Duality is true, both simultaneously without qualifying or attempting to reconcile.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Only animal souls are reattached or "reabsorbed" after death into the spiritual being or "source" from which they detached from before incarnating as an animal, with a few exceptions including elephants, dolphins, and others I forget. We the ones that incarnated here as humans detached from our source a very VERY long time ago, past countless incarnations of which about 6 or 7 could have been as humans, and the rest as humanoid aliens of various light races like pleiadians, lemurians, martians, etc. Returning to our source is simply not in our path.

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