Esoteric significance of the orgasm

Tantric significance of the orgasm, but let's begin the discussion with the female orgasm, as I have not seen that discussed here

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >begin the discussion with the female orgasm, as I have not seen

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      How is female orgasm denial even a thing? All you have to do is watch porn to see that it's real.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    OP never saw a female having a orgasm?
    They just tremble their hips and wet their pussy.
    Their orgasm is longer, but is not as intense as us.
    Our orgasm requires more focus, but it is like a spear being thrown to the sky.
    Women's orgasm is like a cup dropping liquid in the ground.
    For them, sigilization is harder, unless they are nymphomaniacs (female equivalent of the coomer) who would have more intense orgasms. But these are a minority as most women are frigid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No.

      Male and female orgasms are both clenching inside the pelvis, the prostate and cawper's glands.
      Same thing, she wants to throw the spear too but you've never let her.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Said the woman.

        >most women are frigid.

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93prostitute_complex

        >said to develop in men who see women as either saintly Madonnas or debased prostitutes.
        >Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (prostitute) while they cannot desire the respected partner (Madonna).[3]

        Said the cuck.

        >some men like to degrade women.
        Wow. Simply wow. Psychology is so wise.

        >shit retention general
        The art of not giving a shit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >most women are frigid.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madonna%E2%80%93prostitute_complex

      >said to develop in men who see women as either saintly Madonnas or debased prostitutes.
      >Men with this complex desire a sexual partner who has been degraded (prostitute) while they cannot desire the respected partner (Madonna).[3]

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >some men like to degrade women.
        Wow. Simply wow. Psychology is so wise.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you justify & enable hyperindividuality.

          Said the woman.
          [...]
          Said the cuck.
          [...]
          >shit retention general
          The art of not giving a shit.

          >Said the woman.
          >Said the cuck.
          I'm the same person -_-

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Their orgasm is longer, but is not as intense as us.
      wrong. the orgasms of women is significantly stronger by literal multiples. further, your analogies are poor.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        My analogies are based on direct experience with it, not in your religious doctrines. Woman's orgasm is longer, but less intense. Man's orgasm is shorter, but more intense. And that's it. Now you can keep talking about Jesus and Mohammed for the entire night, I dont give a shit.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you can't feel what your gf feels as you have sex with her nor will you ever have a vegana so the only way we can logically compare male and female orgasm is through revelation.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          you can't feel what your gf feels as you have sex with her nor will you ever have a vegana so the only way we can logically compare male and female orgasm is through revelation.

          Haven't they done studies to measure this with neuroscience?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            nerve endings and brain zaps do not determine the perception of pleasure itself. consider this
            >don't eat for a week
            >find potatoes
            >boil them
            >eat them
            >it's the most intense sincere pleasure imaginable
            >same mechanical process as eating potatoes any day
            >only at most a marginally higher amount of brain activity

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Have they proven that there's no significant neurological difference in eating normally and eating after long periods of fasting?
            Because I always assumed there was.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            my point is it's not a linear relationship. also, you haven't considered the neurology of fasting until you read my post.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >my point is it's not a linear relationship.
            I understand your point I'm asking what you're basing it on. Do you have a study demonstrating that it's 'at most a marginally higher amount of brain activity'? I'm genuinely curious.
            >also, you haven't considered the neurology of fasting until you read my post.
            I've read your post and I've considered the neurology of fasting many times when I was fasting myself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Their orgasm is longer, but is not as intense as us.
      wrong. the orgasms of women is significantly stronger by literal multiples. further, your analogies are poor.

      no one know for sure how they compare subjectively because no one has ever been a man and a woman to compare them.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >“The sexual pleasure of women is 99 times to that of men, but God has placed shyness in women.” - Muhammad [Related by Al-Bayhaqi in Shu'ab Al-Iman

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          how did he know this o_0

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            He didn't, the islamic scripture in that quote is being used to justify rape because "she actually likes it better than you do, you're doing something great for her."

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            extramarital sex is still considered a sin in islam. the only reason rape by muslims is so common in europe is because they are importing refugees, which are mostly the scum that are being kicked out of their home countries. they know they aren't good muslims, they're just being disingenuous to avoid consequences, like any criminal scum.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Rape within a polygamous child marriage is still rape.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            while i agree, that is a very modern idea. people were marrying children all over the world at that time, regardless of religion or culture.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Why are you implying that my bias is uncalled for?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            your bias is uncalled for because it is being used to debase a man who lived 1400 years ago.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            well, he's more using that as an example to debase the entire population of current muslims. most muslims do aspire to be as similar to mohammad as possible, they don't change or bend rules to fit the times like christians.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            there's a pretty big debate occurring right now in the muslim community considering whether or not the "sunnah" (Muhammad's example) is a explicit set of actions or a methodology/set of values one should have in the context of society. Personally, I think it's a balance of the two.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Lol. Take it easy.
            That doesn't convince me.

            just playing devil's advocate for argument's sake. if you compare mohammad to christians of his time, they weren't that different. of course, christians changed while muslims have more of less stayed the same since then. although the age of consent reform movement in america only gained traction in the early 1900s, so in that regard, the middle east is only about a century behind us in social progression.

            Sure, but when you compare two shitty ice cream shops it's more like you're setting a low standard for discussion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            well yeah, if your measure of goodness is "exclusively having sex with people older than 18" then americans and brits are the best in the world by far, regardless of religion.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            just playing devil's advocate for argument's sake. if you compare mohammad to christians of his time, they weren't that different. of course, christians changed while muslims have more of less stayed the same since then. although the age of consent reform movement in america only gained traction in the early 1900s, so in that regard, the middle east is only about a century behind us in social progression.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >if you compare mohammad to christians of his time, they weren't that different
            Mary was between 12 – 14 year old when she was married to Joseph. The biggest difference between Christians and Muslims is that Muslims believe their prophets set good examples and they don't try to reform or denounce the actions of prophets. They take the actions of prophets to be similar to the revelation that they're sent with. Further, age of consent is more recent than early 1900s and is closer to mid-late 1900s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            don't christians also do this with jesus in particular? e.g. "what would jesus do?"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            maybe they do at a small scale but at no point was it a fundamental part of christianity like it is in islam.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >at no point was it a fundamental part of christianity like it is in islam.
            "Love one another, as I have loved you"
            "I have been crucified with Christ. It is no longer I who live, but Christ who lives in me."
            "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus"

            You're talking from your ass and you dint know anything

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            crucify yourself if you follow jesus. pray with your face on the floor if you follow jesus. worship only God if you follow jesus.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah. The difference no one is bringing up is that unlike Muhammad there's no evidence Jesus fricked anyone, let alone a child so it's not possible for those people to use him to justify sexual acts that would otherwise be blatantly wrong.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            There is no evidence whatsoever of Mary's age or of Joseph's. Women in thsy region at that time married usually between 12/13 and their early 20s. So Mary was (probably) between 12 and 25

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >people were marrying children all over the world at that time, regardless of religion or culture.
            Quite literally a lie. Marriage in civilized countries (Western and Northern Europe) has always been with consenting adults around their mid-20s.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >people were marrying children all over the world at that time
            No, mentally they were adults, just like a 13 year old girl can be fully mature mentally, and able to give consent or not because she has full understanding of what's happening (she's no innocent.)
            Since "children" were expected to have sex that early, they were fully educated about it, reaching the mental maturity required.
            Nowadays 9 years old girl may wake up with sexual desires and no idea what they are or why they have them, and there's a sense of shame about talking about it, resulting on a high number of unwanted pregnancies because they have no idea what they're doing or why.
            They may get to be 19 years old or older and still be mentally a child, because there's no interest in getting them to reach mental maturity ASAP.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yep, the (psychological) neotenization of the youth in the modern Western industrialized world is a real and massive progressing phenomenon, if you look at things historically. Maturation used to be “quicker”. Maybe not literally and physically, but children would be thrown into working (literal physical practical and necessary labor, like helping around the farm), besides sex and marriage, much earlier in previous generations. Today, we see the reverse, where there’s extended adolescence and young adulthood for these age groups — public education, then about four years of an undergraduate education pushed on many, as an extended adolescence and refuge from the “real world”.

            Besides the creation of teenage hood/adolescence/young adulthood as a new marketing demographic and identity in the media — a demographic to advertise and sell stuff to, basically, as consumers with a “unique identity” of being “unique, rebellious, hip teens in the prime of their lives”, along with all the media centered around this age-group (TV shows, film) creating a unique branding for this group and giving romanticized pictures of adolescence. I don’t blame this on the youth themselves, it’s the way society has progressed. Economy sucking too forces a lot of youths into this extended adolescence, as well, from the difficulty of sanely moving out of mom and pa’s house upon reaching adulthood for many. (More practical for many to continue living with them and save up money for some time while finding a good career.)

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Economy sucking too forces a lot of youths into this extended adolescence, as well, from the difficulty of sanely moving out of mom and pa’s house upon reaching adulthood for many
            I think it's kind of the reverse of that.
            They manufactured the idea that either moving out of the house or moving your parents out of the house is necessary to be an adult. Because of that people either entered adulthood with enormous debt or were basically branded as children until they were willing to do so.
            There's no reason to move out of the family home if they have space and you contribute to the household.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            same way he knew
            >people would walk around with instruments on their head (headphones)
            >peoples thigh would tell them what's happening at home (cellphones)
            >white donkeys with huge ears would carry people city to city (airplanes)
            >people would compete in building tall buildings
            >women would walk around naked yet clothed (spandex)
            >women would work like men
            >people will become obese
            >there are 360 joints in the human body
            >there will be holes drilled through mountains (tunnels)
            >the pressure at the earths core is too low to produce iron and came to earth from the sky (asteroids)
            >the earth and the sun was pulled together from clouds of dust

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >people would walk around with instruments on their head (headphones)
            Fair enough
            >peoples thigh would tell them what's happening at home (cellphones)
            A bit of a stretch but ok
            >white donkeys with huge ears would carry people city to city (airplanes)
            This one is cool
            >people would compete in building tall buildings
            Surely this never happened in ancient times...
            >women would walk around naked yet clothed (spandex)
            Stretchy
            >women would work like men
            Women already labored in farms and shit
            >people will become obese
            You're telling me when society declines people will be... LE DECADENT???????
            >there are 360 joints in the human body
            Sacred geometry. Big whoop
            >there will be holes drilled through mountains (tunnels)
            Bill Gates actually invented the first tunnel in 2006
            >the pressure at the earths core is too low to produce iron and came to earth from the sky (asteroids
            Says some science gay
            >the earth and the sun was pulled together from clouds of dust
            Ditto. Probably ripped off Muhammed

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            source? i am genuinely interested.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >people would walk around with instruments on their head (headphones)
            https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:4020
            >peoples thigh would tell them what's happening at home (cellphones)
            https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2181 ("what happens with his family after him" generally is the arab way of saying "at home after he's left")
            >white donkeys with huge ears would carry people city to city (airplanes)
            This is from Bihar al-Anwar. It further explains the donkey will have doors on its belly, lights on the inside of it, and comfortable chairs.
            >people would compete in building tall buildings
            https://sunnah.com/adab:449
            >women would walk around naked yet clothed (spandex)
            https://sunnah.com/muslim:2128
            >women would work like men
            https://sunnah.com/adab:1049
            >people will become obese
            https://sunnah.com/bulugh:1415
            >there are 360 joints in the human body
            https://sunnah.com/adab:422
            >there will be holes drilled through mountains (tunnels)
            >'If you see Mecca, with holes pierced through it’s mountains and it’s buildings reach the mountain tops then know that the hour has cast it's
            >Al Musannaf of Ibne Abi Shay’ba, Hadith #124
            >the pressure at the earths core is too low to produce iron and came to earth from the sky (asteroids)
            https://quran.com/57:25
            >the earth and the sun was pulled together from clouds of dust
            https://quran.com/21:30

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >“The sexual pleasure of women is 99 times to that of men, but God has placed shyness in women.” - Muhammad [Related by Al-Bayhaqi in Shu'ab Al-Iman

            >people would walk around with instruments on their head (headphones)
            https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:4020
            >peoples thigh would tell them what's happening at home (cellphones)
            https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:2181 ("what happens with his family after him" generally is the arab way of saying "at home after he's left")
            >white donkeys with huge ears would carry people city to city (airplanes)
            This is from Bihar al-Anwar. It further explains the donkey will have doors on its belly, lights on the inside of it, and comfortable chairs.
            >people would compete in building tall buildings
            https://sunnah.com/adab:449
            >women would walk around naked yet clothed (spandex)
            https://sunnah.com/muslim:2128
            >women would work like men
            https://sunnah.com/adab:1049
            >people will become obese
            https://sunnah.com/bulugh:1415
            >there are 360 joints in the human body
            https://sunnah.com/adab:422
            >there will be holes drilled through mountains (tunnels)
            >'If you see Mecca, with holes pierced through it’s mountains and it’s buildings reach the mountain tops then know that the hour has cast it's
            >Al Musannaf of Ibne Abi Shay’ba, Hadith #124
            >the pressure at the earths core is too low to produce iron and came to earth from the sky (asteroids)
            https://quran.com/57:25
            >the earth and the sun was pulled together from clouds of dust
            https://quran.com/21:30

            This is excellent, thank you for sharing. Strange thread for it to be in but I’m happy I found it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            OP here, yes this was a pleasant find in an otherwise derailed thread.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You don't need to be.
        The orgasm is not in the tip of the penis, or the clitoris.
        The real sensation of an orgasm is deep, within.
        Men & women have the same sexual organs, they are only differentiated by pre-natal hormone exposure.

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i mean, i've seen a few events that could be considered a "female orgasm" but i'm sure you could argue semantics, since a male orgasm is obviously just an ejeculation of semen.
    >type 1: female has uncontrollable muscle spasms througout body, similar to seizure, especially bucking of the hips. no significant discharge.
    >type 2: often similar to type 1, but with the emmission of a clear liquid from the urethra. liquid is odorless and colorless, like water. known as "squirting"
    >type 3: also similar to type one, but with emission of thick, gooey discharge from veganal canal. can be white or grey translucent, similar in appearance to semen. unique odor and flavor. known as "girlcum"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Great descriptions anon, gooning to your post now. Do you have a patreon?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can ejaculate without orgasm, and I don't just mean nocturnal emissions
      Anyone really bad at edging knows what I mean

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    > Tantric significance of the orgasm, but let's begin the discussion with the female orgasm, as I have not seen that discussed here
    The potent alteration of the consciousness present in moments of intense bliss like the orgasm, or even in the use of certain narcotics or even alcohol, is held by some of the Tantrikas to be as valid a path to enlightenment as the asceticism and various yogic manipulations of body and consciousness in other related yogic traditions or teachings. (However, note, many genuine Tantrikas DO ALSO employ asceticism and yogic meditation, just as a Vedantin might — it’s not ALL just about “sex and drugs”; this has been often overrated in the West, because it’s the most lurid and compelling aspect, in Western teachings like of “sex magick”, claiming to be inspired by Tantra).

    The moment of orgasm is an intensely blissful ecstatic one which in its own way can mirror a sort of “non-duality”, as well as intense presentness, here-and-nowness, being utterly and intensely focused on the moment. The grosser “non-duality” it offers (gross as contrasted to subtle, not in the sense of “disgusting”), is that of union with the physical consort or beloved; or, if onanistic, with the image of the beautiful one in one’s mind. Sex itself offers this grosser form of non-duality through union with the consort, which involves literal physical union (lingam in yoni), besides the unification of one’s state of consciousness with theirs. So it’s like a momentary release from the limited individual state of consciousness.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Various Tantric and yogic teachings, particularly those having to do with phenomena like the subtle body (or bodies), pathways of such subtle energy in the body/subtle body, kundalini, chakras, etc. (also paralleled in Tibetan “chandali” and their similar teaching of chakras, although reduced to five major ones), often link the genitals or life-generative system close to the bottom of the spine, to higher subtler energy that also flows in the body and can be manipulated, withheld, built up and strengthened. (Typically conceived as flowing up the spine through certain subtle pathways and through these various “chakras”, reaching the top of the head). Just as the genitals can be used to produce a literal new outer life outside of one’s organism, so they hold that the subtle energy latent in the genitals/sex (or the semen for men) can be redirected within one’s body to create a “new consciousness”, allegorically speaking.

      In the Tibetan Tantric teachings, sex/the orgasm is held to be a particularly good gateway to and representation of “the union of bliss and emptiness” that signifies the Tibetan concept of enlightenment. Another way it’s often put, is realization that the nature of the mind is clear light. They also hold that for most, the orgasm is “wasted” — we do not fully use its potential for the realization of our innate mind or states of “higher consciousness.”

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Through desirous activities such as gazing at a loved one, or smiling, holding hands, embracing, or engaging in sexual union, a pleasurable consciousness is produced; it is used to realize the truth that afflictive emotions are peripheral and that the nature of the mind is clear light, whereby afflictive desire itself is undermined. The pleasurable consciousness is generated simultaneously with a wisdom consciousness, and thus the two are indivisibly fused.

        The usage of desire in the spiritual path is explicitly for the sake of providing opportunities for wisdom, for direct experience of the fact that afflictive emotions, no matter how ingrained they may seem, do not subsist in the nature of the mind. The difficulty of using an orgasmic consciousness to realize anything indicates that it would take a person of considerable spiritual development to be able to utilize such a subtle state in the path. Indeed, these levels usually are not even noticed, never mind utilized, in common copulation, but they are not completely unnoticed--there are reasons why most beings like sex so much.

        The aim of sexual yoga is, therefore, not mere repetition of an attractive state but revelation of the basic reality underlying appearances. Nevertheless, to experience the union of bliss and emptiness, sexual pleasure has to be developed in fullness, and to do this it is necessary to implement techniques for extending the experience of pleasure; otherwise, a valuable opportunity is lost in the ephemerality of orgasm. The twentieth century Tibetan intellectual, Gedun Chopel,[33] who traveled to India and wrote his own Treatise on Passion[34] based mainly but not exclusively on the Kaama Suutra, advocates the usage of sexual pleasure to open oneself to the profound, fundamental state at the core of all consciousness.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          As he says:

          The small child of intelligence swoons in the deep sphere of passion.
          The busy mind falls into the hole of a worm.
          By drawing the imaginations of attachment downwards
          Beings should observe the suchness of pleasure.
          Wishing to mix in the ocean of the bliss of the peaceful expanse
          This wave of magician's illusions separated off
          By perceiving the non-dual as dual, subject and object,
          Does one not feel the movement and igniting of the coalesced!

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >thread about orgasming
    >it turns into how young they should be able to orgasm
    for shame

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    women can't orgasm.
    next question

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      this
      /thread

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        yes they can

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    didn't that one guy die of giga prostate cancer at 64?

    Lmfao

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    69

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have given many a fair maiden toe curling organisms. You see, I am a Casanova of sorts.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s funny watching you guys try to mechanically decipher a woman’s orgasm.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's all it's good for. It's like the show Lost, once the mystery is gone we'd realize it's completely worthless to us.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      because you're the expert right?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

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  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The female orgasm is the highest pleasure it is possible for any living entity to feel. Female masturbation is discouraged in youth, unlike male masturbation, then for a lot of women their first experience with an orgasm is via mechanical means rather than through their own hands, which for lots of them removes their ability to reach natural climax. Men are empowered by being in touch with their sexuality, women can't reach their peak without the same mastery over their sexuality, it is specifically denied to women because the female human is the last point of reincarnation. If a woman masters herself on every level the soul is finally ready to move on. Women are perceived as shit by a lot of men because most of them are sexually frustrated, a lot rely on men to make them cum which means they are giving all their power away and will regress back into being male in the next lifetime. Some men may argue there is no way that women are superior to men, but women are the half of the gender capable of having the complete himan experience. They see more colours, they feel more pleasure, they create and birth life and then nourish it with their own bodies. To keep us all trapped here as many women are denied mastery of their own bodies as possible to keep as many of us trapped here as possible. Your last life will always be female, the sensations of the higher realms are comparable to the female orgasm, the human female is the only being on Earth with an organ designed only for sexual pleasure and there is a reason for that. Just imagine as a male the best orgasm you have ever had, some of you may have been able to go for round 2 afterwards, but most need a break. The best orgasm you have ever had is nothing compared to a clitoral orgasm, then for a skilled female masturbator she can make herself reach that level of pleasure over and over again.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If she pairs that sensation with g-spot, anal and nipple stimulation she is reaching the heights if ecstacy that no man will ever know. The closest the male can get is anal penetration and that is why so many of the magical and satanic weirdos do bum stuff, they're trying to feel a moment of heaven that they can never truly know. The female form gets one ready to pass to the next level, that is the ultimate truth about the differences between the genders.

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