Egregores

What are they, anons?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You wasted an entire thread for something you could’ve googled

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It is better to get the perspective of people who have nothing to sell me, there's a lot of garbage to sort through.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        They’re magik poop monsters that steal your dreams
        trust me bro I’m posting on EerieWeb I am the truth mainstream media doesn’t want you seeing

        Fricking moron where do you think you are a school for alchemy and wizardry ran by the greats
        This is a poop den fricking dumb chuds

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Frick off and shit up someone else's damn thread.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Psychic machines, created consciously or unconsciously, through particular rituals.

    One of the possible explanation of why exorcisms and demons are common in every religion and work in every religion.

    Demons are egregores created by a particular culture, and exorcisms are just the inverse ritual for the destruction of the entity.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      t. trust me bro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kind of like artificial intelligence, then? It can simulate a conscious intelligent being, but isn't actually the real thing, and is moulded by humans and thus is anthropomorphic? Makes sense as to why demons look like us.

      https://www.vice.com/en/article/4354zp/these-occult-exorcists-say-the-catholic-church-makes-demons-worse

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The existence of egregores is predicated on the idea that, when certain behaviours, beliefs or mental/psychic states are synchronized between individuals, they become connected in some way as nodes in a higher order system. The system operates on its own logic, in turn governing the behaviour of the individual nodes.

    Think of how the movement patterns of large crowds of people follow the principles of fluid dynamics. Think of those giant schools of sardines. Think of the cells in your body. That is how egregores operate. If I am trying to flee a packed, burning building and I do not choose to lie down and get trampled, I go with the flow. Maybe there is enough room for me to decide to turn around and walk back towards the flames, or maybe the crowd is so densely packed that I'm just carried along, unless I'm at the fringes.

    The spooky part is that these connections can exist at a distance and that these systems, having emerged out of certain arrangements of the already complex human psyche, may be isomorphic to it. I.e a bunch of people building a temple to a certain God may also be understood as the will of an egregore to build a temple dedicated to itself.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Like in the same way that the brain is given signals to eat, so as to nourish itself?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Soft yes in the sense that a change of states in one area of the system will beget a potentially complex chain of reactions throughout but I also don't want to attribute things like a brain/body distinction or hunger necessarily

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    AI is a very useful analogue for this conversation. Just consider egregores to be a semi-autonomous series of logic that resembles when compiled and maintained an AI, but not stored necessarily in a physical system like a memory card and a motherboard, but in a less-physical form. Egregores, therefore, have meaningful overlap with "spirits" or "daemons" or however else you want to term them.
    You know how when people talk about "haunted houses"? That encounter is predicated upon a "shared hallucination" or a series of emotional reactions that 13th monkeyed an entity into existence, where further exposure by different people also share the previous spiritual-logical exposure setting that manifests a new interaction.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think there is a physical aspect to them, typically sacred spaces, altars, sacred objects like shiva lingams seem to contain power.

      Which, as you bring up with the haunted house example, can localize this psychic phenomena.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No, those are physical mediums. The egregores can be channeled through idols, talismans, or other kinds of tokens imbued with the energies. You can also be a channel, like when you invoke the Word using their vibrations, like when you create their sigil or when you perform certain yogas, etc.
        It certainly seems like hyperlocality is a dependable theme, yes. I think it's about what/where the "spirit" is bound to. It's kind of like how you can type in the IP address and connect through that instead of just using DNS; there are different ways to connect to them and you can do it through a laptop, a desktop, a phone, etc. Maybe the rapport has been established through that channel and that's the easiest way for it to will the residual or potential energy.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, I get it. Yet how do the egregores get the symbols in the first place? What if two cultures in different parts of the world have a ritual very similar to one another but they do it for their respective egregores, then what? Is it also about the intention?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >What if two cultures in different parts of the world have a ritual very similar to one another but they do it for their respective egregores, then what?
            The energy goes to the respective egregore? There can be two people with the same name and each get their own? What kind of question is that?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Is it also about the intention?

            The point I was trying to make is that it seems more like it's the intention rather than the act itself.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That wasn't me, the guy from before,

            No, those are physical mediums. The egregores can be channeled through idols, talismans, or other kinds of tokens imbued with the energies. You can also be a channel, like when you invoke the Word using their vibrations, like when you create their sigil or when you perform certain yogas, etc.
            It certainly seems like hyperlocality is a dependable theme, yes. I think it's about what/where the "spirit" is bound to. It's kind of like how you can type in the IP address and connect through that instead of just using DNS; there are different ways to connect to them and you can do it through a laptop, a desktop, a phone, etc. Maybe the rapport has been established through that channel and that's the easiest way for it to will the residual or potential energy.

            and

            AI is a very useful analogue for this conversation. Just consider egregores to be a semi-autonomous series of logic that resembles when compiled and maintained an AI, but not stored necessarily in a physical system like a memory card and a motherboard, but in a less-physical form. Egregores, therefore, have meaningful overlap with "spirits" or "daemons" or however else you want to term them.
            You know how when people talk about "haunted houses"? That encounter is predicated upon a "shared hallucination" or a series of emotional reactions that 13th monkeyed an entity into existence, where further exposure by different people also share the previous spiritual-logical exposure setting that manifests a new interaction.

            .
            >the intention
            Definitely. Also keep in mind that this particular aspect of metaphysics is inherently incomprehensible. This is why they're "Mysteries". We don't know nor do we have the capacity to explain them (yet, perhaps) unless you know something I don't. After excepting that, which I find easier than chasing my tail, it was easier to shift that focus to more practical efforts.
            >same ritual different egregores
            Again, I think the DNS route versus the IP address is a good analogy here. You can get to the same homepage by typing in the appropriate "website.com" name or just using its IP address, right? I think it's like that.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I think a big aspect of dealing with the spiritual is recognizing that you really do not know anything for certain, you just have models and do your best.

            That theory makes sense, but I do find the physicality of it all so strange.

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