Depiction of Demiurge

Can anyone for the love of god please explain why God was depicted as having a Lion head and reptilian body?

What did the ancients mean by this??
Also usually the Skyfather (God) often depicted as a tall white guy with long beard on a throne or sth. like that.

What is the connection between the Usual God depiction and Demiurge depiction?

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Demiurge is both God and Satan, Lion and Serpent. He created the good and the evil.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Both animals were common representations of Zeus for whom the word Demiurgos was first used.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Both animals were common representations of Zeus for whom the word Demiurgos was first used.
        Fascinating.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        pretty sure that’s wrong but I’m not an expert on greek stuff

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Yaldabaoth is Cronus, Zeus is Sabaoth

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      This.
      It's all about dualism/dipoles etc.
      Solar Apollonian + Lunar Dionysian.
      It's (also) a metaphor for the material universe itself; always dual. See: Three Torus model of the universe.

      That's what separates the Demiurge from a true Most High God. The true highest God would be non-dual, and well beyond the material. God would be 10th/11th dimensional, and the Demiurge would be somewhere 'below' that.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous
      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        god is where you put it
        both of these figures are like stations that play their roles
        just as you
        'god' is whatever is empowered most/given most power/most agency
        ill leave you to figure out how empowerments happen

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Not true. Literally nobody ever said this until very recently, when Christcucks and their red-leather mirror images started trying to figure out how to shoehorn their favorite baddy into Gnosticism. See here, for example,

      https://i.imgur.com/XqXYIcJ.png

      You have power over the demiurge anon
      Summoning Demiurge Through His Sigil And Defeating Him (With Music)

      This world is controlled by Lucifer, who deceived the nations with his Freemasonic builders. One day the synagogue of Satan shall bow down before the overcomer, who is a Christian, from Revelation 3:7-13 (google it). This overcomer shall start the beginning of the time when the saints shall rule with rods of iron, while the manchild of Revelation 12 is raptured before Satan can assassinate him.

      [Embed]

      It's Jesus in the body of Christ us born again with the Holy Ghost VS the body of Satan who are the people of disobedience working in the angel of the air who is also Lucifer.

      Once the world acknowledges Satans defeat, then let us elect a new president that shall reveal the truth, eventosay the shape of the earth, and the nature of space above.

      where a flat-earth moron tries to syncretize Lucifer with the Demiurge. It's a sad, silly cope. Satan has no place in Gnosticism, there is no such figure. The "Serpent" that you refer to (in Eden) is Jesus in multiple Gnostic traditions.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        So having said that, note how everybody in this thread is trying to separate the head from the body, finding some facile symbolic meaning, rather than considering the history of lion-headed serpents. Nobody has considered that this may be an actual type of body that exists in certain densities, or a type of manifestation that certain entities prefer, or preferred at certain times—or from a psychological point of view, that this is an image that has recurred in the collective human imagination.

        For example, in the Sacred Book of Hermes to Asclepius, the 36 Egyptian gods of time, known as the Decans, are described (as part of an operation of medical magic, in which gems inscribed with the images of the decans are worn to heal conditions ruled by that part of the zodiac). Note this excerpt:

        >First decan of Leo. It is called KHNOUMOS and has the head of a lion whence issue solar rays. His whole body is that of a spiralling serpent, going upwards. He rules over afflictions of the heart. Engrave him on an agate stone, place an edelweiss plant under it, enclose it in whatever you wish and wear it on you. Abstain from eating songbird eggs.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          So it's quite likely this amulet was not a depiction of Yaldabaoth from the Apocryphon of John (the origin of OP's inquiry and the only gnostic text that contains this description), but simply a remedy for heart disease...

          • 4 weeks ago
            Secret John (Stevan Davies translation)

            It happened that the realm (aeon) Wisdom (Sophia)
            Of conceptual thought (Epinoia),
            Began to think for herself,
            She used the thinking (enthymesis)
            And the foreknowledge (prognosis)
            Of the Invisible Spirit.

            She intended to reveal an image from herself
            To do so without the consent of the Spirit,
            Who did not approve,
            Without the thoughtful assistance of her masculine counterpart,
            Who did not approve.

            Without the Invisible Spirit’s consent
            Without the knowledge of her partner
            She brought it into being.

            Because she had unconquerable Power
            Her thought was not unproductive.
            Something imperfect came out of her
            Different in appearance from her.

            Because she had created it without her masculine counterpart
            She gave rise to a misshapen being unlike herself.

            Sophia saw what her desire produced.
            It changed into the form of a dragon with a lion’s head
            And eyes flashing lightning bolts.
            She cast him far from her,
            Outside of the realm of the immortal beings
            So that they could not see him.

            [She had created him in ignorance.]

            Sophia surrounded him with a brilliant cloud,
            Put a throne in the center part of the cloud
            So that no one would see it.
            [Except for the Holy Spirit called the Mother of the Living]
            She named him Yaldabaoth.

            Yaldabaoth is the chief ruler.
            He took great Power (dynamis) from his mother,
            Left her, and moved away from his birthplace.
            He assumed command,
            Created realms for himself
            With a brilliant flame that continues to exist even now.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Hypostasis of the Archons (Bentley Layton translation)

            Eleleth, the great angel, spoke to me. "It is I," he said, "who am understanding. I am one of the four light-givers, who stand in the presence of the great invisible spirit. Do you think these rulers have any power over you? None of them can prevail against the root of truth; for on its account he appeared in the final ages; and these authorities will be restrained. And these authorities cannot defile you and that generation; for your abode is in incorruptibility, where the virgin spirit dwells, who is superior to the authorities of chaos and to their universe."

            But I said, "Sir, teach me about the faculty of these authorities – how did they come into being, and by what kind of genesis, and of what material, and who created them and their force?"

            And the great angel Eleleth, understanding, spoke to me: "Within limitless realms dwells incorruptibility. Sophia, who is called Pistis, wanted to create something, alone without her consort; and her product was a celestial thing. A veil exists between the world above and the realms that are below; and shadow came into being beneath the veil; and that shadow became matter; and that shadow was projected apart. And what she had created became a product in the matter, like an aborted fetus. And it assumed a plastic form molded out of shadow, and became an arrogant beast resembling a lion. It was androgynous, as I have already said, because it was from matter that it derived.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >or from a psychological point of view, that this is an image that has recurred in the collective human imagination.
          behavioral representations
          all of our symbols have some sort of emotional resonance (robot, tiger, bull, etc) and reflect part of what humans have the capacity to express
          this energy exists "elsewhere" too, as far as i'm aware, it's just that it is made manifest on this plane in humans through certain symbols too.

          Both the lion and the serpent are pretty potent symbols. Put them together and you get...
          Now does this energy combine and incarnate in a human?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Demiurge is simply a play on words.
      "De 'me' urge"
      The "me" urge
      >me me
      >meme
      It's just a crude way of older people to "look down" at younger people they consider to be "kids" (MM, looking at you, b***h)

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    PS tall white guy exists cause of greek homies

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The snake scales are in the wrong direction. Dumbass demiurge dumbass image

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This was a mandela effect for me, had never seen the lion head with serpent body until 2022, now it's always been here.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      can confirm its always been there. Might’ve been a kitten head though. At least thats what I saw in a dream in 2013 at 8 years old.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Please refrain from posting until your brain fully develops.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Take your own advice, moron.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        You gotta be an adult to post here lil buddy.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          He's 19

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      For me its the same.
      since finding out about the south african president effect in 2018, now its somehow the mandela effect when i know it was always south african president effect.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Nice

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I saw it in a dream in specific parts before I knew anything about it or this website. Not really sure why. Its just the way it is.

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Snek bcuz the garden
    Lion bcuz thee ego

    Froot of knldge wuz uf duawiwity cuz gud an ebil dint exist untiw persweption rerd iz noosy mouf an remuvd uz from heben (nah duawiwity)

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You have power over the demiurge anon
    Summoning Demiurge Through His Sigil And Defeating Him (With Music)

    This world is controlled by Lucifer, who deceived the nations with his Freemasonic builders. One day the synagogue of Satan shall bow down before the overcomer, who is a Christian, from Revelation 3:7-13 (google it). This overcomer shall start the beginning of the time when the saints shall rule with rods of iron, while the manchild of Revelation 12 is raptured before Satan can assassinate him.

    [Embed]

    It's Jesus in the body of Christ us born again with the Holy Ghost VS the body of Satan who are the people of disobedience working in the angel of the air who is also Lucifer.

    Once the world acknowledges Satans defeat, then let us elect a new president that shall reveal the truth, eventosay the shape of the earth, and the nature of space above.

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Demiurge's depiction really looks a lot like deez nutz.

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Demiurge depiction is literally a penis. Snake (shaft) with a monkey head (tip) and a lions mane (pubes).

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

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  10. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why God was depicted as having a Lion head and reptilian body?
    It’s because gnosticism was heavily influenced by near-eastern mystery cults (lion) and the anguipode goddess (snake)

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the term demiurge was never meant to express a personal being, whether evil or good. Such an opinion is a very elementary literal interpretation of veiled mystical writings. In the earliest mentions of the demiurge (such as Plato), there was never originally a concept of an evil God that created the physical world, and to later express any such connotation to the meaning of YHWH in the Old Testament became sorely misguided. It's true that the Gnostic groups such as the Sethians and Ophites did name the demiurge Yaldaboath, and assigned him as the evil creator God YHWH—the antagonist of the father of Jesus Christ. But why they did this, perhaps, has more to do with a corruption of original Gnostic thought, where they branched off and created their own religious ideas within the umbrella of what we consider today Gnosticism. In one sense, we can consider them heretics of Gnostic thought, similar to why later church fathers eventually declared Origen a heretic of Orthodox Christianity. Of course some will disagree with me, but that is the conclusion I have arrived at after extensive studies.

    The original meaning of the demiurge is not a self-aware entity, but a description for the potential of the archetypal man.

    The demiurge is not evil, but necessary as an emanation of the ONE that became limited in order to create and experience itself. It is my belief that the initiation of creation happened by impulse, not by conscious decision of a supreme entity. That impulse evolved into self-awareness and the ability to know itself, and since this is an inherit function of the ONE Father, we can in retrospect say it is now the supreme, self-aware entity. And because time is only an illusion, and everything exists simultaneously, therefore that supreme entity always was and always will BE. Thus the paradox! The unconscious and the conscious God existing simultaneously. Yes, a little mind-boggling, I know!

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Timaeus text still personifies a creator, who makes the universe like an animal (they kind of but not quite personify the universe?), it just doesn't call any of those Yaltabaoth or explain further than that. one might interpret it as they will.

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Literally, the word demiurge means “public worker” or “public craftsman.” The Greek word from which it comes was originally used to denote a person such as an artisan who had a special skill and fulfilled a special function in society. Over time the term came to refer to a deity of sorts; in some philosophies and religions, the Demiurge is a subordinate god who was involved in the creation of the universe. The Demiurge is seen as the Great Artificer or the Grand Architect of the Univers

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      tantra knows this. the goddess created the 3 gods who created the universe. same as in legend of zelda the chaos born the 3 golden goddesses that created the world

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The Demiurge: The Key to Spiritual Illumination in Gnosticism

    The Demiurge is a divine craftsman, often described as a lower deity or archon. According to Gnostic teachings, the Demiurge created the physical world, including the material realm and the human body, but is distinct from the true divine source. The Demiurge is considered an intermediary, lacking the divine essence of the ultimate spiritual reality.

    Gnostics believe that the Demiurge is responsible for veiling the true nature of reality, and true spiritual illumination comes from piercing through this veil. Planetary alignments and celestial influences are believed to emanate from the Demiurge’s creative power, shaping our destinies and life experiences. Numerology unveils the hidden codes embedded in existence, offering glimpses of the Demiurge’s cosmic design.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    we tru ones know god is actualy a chicken with snakes for legs

  15. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Lion
    Narnia
    >body
    The cover from Neverending Story, I think.
    don't @me

  16. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

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