Demons Real Jesus Fake

Anyone else believe in malevolent spirits (extra dimensional beings) but simultaneously reject Christianity and other religions? I actually think christianity is a psyop to make people think they can use the bible to cast out demons, when in actuality it is ineffective against them, and this is done by the demons so we have no way to fight them effectively

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  1. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    No. Demons frick off when you're on Jesus's team.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Jesus is made up tho

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why would they do that? Why would they make up someone we could hope in? Why? Why would they give us someone who tells us to forgive evildoers and be subject to tyrannical empires and slave masters? I just don't get it.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          the demons made it up to spiritually cuck us and make us easy prey

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Why would they do that? Why would demons ask us to invoke the names of dead people, have statues and images of people that they can dwell in, and worship a man as God? It just makes no sense.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            because none of that shit threatens them

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No shit, I am being sarcastic. There's a reason why Christianity breaks so many of the important spiritual rules in the Torah. It was because of Paul the apostate demoniac.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            sry it took me a sec to see the sarcasm lol

            how to actually fight demons then?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yahweh will literally protect you from them, but you have to follow His rules.

            Is that why so many of the big guys in the bible all command or summon demons? It sure seems convenient that devils show up all around Jesus...

            If you cooperate with demons you can do all kinds of incredible things with them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >jesus can intercede on your behalf and protect you from any kind of malevolent entity
            >he won't do this unless you worship him and specifically ask for his protection
            >he loves everyone, though, even the nonbelievers being tormented by demons who he refuses to help because they haven't sucked his metaphysical dick enough
            yeah, miss me with that shit
            the god of abraham is the king of the demons
            any god who claims humans as his favorite animals is by default an evil god

            I've always respected Christians but as I get older I do realize that most of what they believe in is just nonsense projected by the evil. Even if there were a Christ that was resurrected, they don't know that and try to impress their image of Christ by believing in him, as though somehow Christ will show them favor. But they don't really necessarily change. It's all fake and on the surface.

            If you go to churches I think many of the people there are loveless and hateful demonically influenced people.

            What I get most about the story of Christ is that it is about what happens when someone goes against the pharisees. That is, what happens if you go against the rulers of this world.

            I think that fighting demons comes from within. If you have mastery over your own inner demons, then you'll be able to conquer demons outside of you. Perhaps there is a Christ that can help you, but I think that Christ is really ultimately the inner light of self knowledge and that's the way to cast out and overcome demons. The more darkness we have in us, the less we can fight demons because they can influence the weaknesses that we are not aware of.

            Even though I'm an atheist, I still say the Lord's prayer that I was taught when I was a boy whenever I feel scared or have a nightmare. I believe the very fact that I can focus intently on "positive" energy going back to my childhood provides some kind of protection. Even though I don't believe in Jesus, I think at best the "idea" of Jesus could at least be a suitable egregore that one can "tap" into for spiritual protection, at best, but this is just a theory. I have a hindu friend who prays to the monkey king, and a chinese friend who prays to Buddha for similar reasons, and none of us will sincerely claim to admit that we believe in this stuff literally.

            >jesus can intercede on your behalf and protect you from any kind of malevolent entity
            >he won't do this unless you worship him and specifically ask for his protection
            >he loves everyone, though, even the nonbelievers being tormented by demons who he refuses to help because they haven't sucked his metaphysical dick enough
            yeah, miss me with that shit
            the god of abraham is the king of the demons
            any god who claims humans as his favorite animals is by default an evil god

            Do you think Yahweh really is an omnipotent God. I think that if there are demons, there are also "good" spirits humanity can appeal to for protection, perhaps the God of the old testament is one of them.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Yahweh is a very powerful deity, which is why I call him God. He has shepherded my ancestors for three thousand years.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >deity
            not a deity
            please guys we need to stop worshiping the bible as if it is fact, we are just wasting time.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >I think that if there are demons, there are also "good" spirits humanity can appeal to for protection, perhaps the God of the old testament is one of them.
            The god of the old testament is one of the demons, anon. I honestly don't understand how anyone could read the bible and not come to this conclusion. This is a god that, among dozens of other examples I could name, literally killed every firstborn male in an entire nation. Not just male humans, but fricking livestock as well:
            >This is what the LORD says: "About midnight I will go throughout Egypt. Every firstborn son in Egypt will die, from the firstborn son of Pharaoh, who sits on the throne, to the firstborn of the slave girl, who is at her hand mill, and all the firstborn of the cattle as well. There will be loud wailing throughout Egypt-worse than there has ever been or ever will be again."
            He did this because he didn't like the way the ruler of this nation was treating his favorite tribe. Does that seem like something a good god would do? Killing the innocent son of a slave as part of a punishment aimed at the ruler of the person who owned that slave? Does a good god kill tens, perhaps hundreds of thousands of innocents to prove a point?

            This is the same god that supposedly killed every living thing on the planet with the exception of what Noah could fit on his ark. Is this the act of a kind and just god? The bible itself depicts the god of abraham as objectively evil.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            He didn't kill the firstborns of Egypt. This was the moronic shit israelites put into the Torah to support their practice of ritual human slaughter that the prophets often spoke about. Don't take the narrative elements of the Torah seriously, even Deuteronomy is legal revision.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Look at the kind of mental gymnastics you need to excuse the behavior of this supposedly benevolent god. That alone should be enough to make you think twice.

            So your position is that the plagues of Egypt didn't actually happen? That's bold. How about the flood? That far more egregious than just killing the firstborn of a single nation. Let me guess, the flood was a metaphor or something?

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            I never said He was omnibenevolent LOL, just a big dog who keeps His words. Ten plagues never happened, it was a polemical piece. I figure that the Exodus was a small event with the Levites since that's what is spoken about in the Nevi'im. The rest of memories that Israel had with Egypt had to do with them seeking independence from the Egyptians. Flood wasn't a metaphor, just a Mesopotamian myth that the scribes put into the Torah and bungled badly, it's why God seems like a schizophrenic butthole. God doesn't exist because of a book, but the idea of God as He is written in the book certainly does, and it is an idol.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >the idea of God as He is written in the book
            no

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Yahweh will literally protect you from them, but you have to follow His rules.
            he gave you free will to protect yourself by using your brain

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Is that why so many of the big guys in the bible all command or summon demons? It sure seems convenient that devils show up all around Jesus...

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Do any of you genuinely believe when you say this or do you just say it to be annoying because I can provide multiple easily verifiable sources which prove the historicity of Christ

        • 4 weeks ago
          Schizo Retard

          he was probably a real person. doesn't mean he did the magic shit that's in the bible.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        He actually wasn't. check out the shroud of Turin which I think 2 or 3 years ago was reinvestigated and proven to not be faked.

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >shroud of Turin
          Is confirmed fake and from the dark ages.

          >Independent tests in 1988 at the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology concluded with 95% confidence that the shroud material dated to 1260–1390 AD
          >The most recent analysis (2020) concluded that the stated date range needs to be adjusted by up to 88 years in order to properly meet the requirement of "95% confidence".

          That's the most recent test. It's fake.

          More fun facts:

          > The cloth has Herringbone weave. In 1998, shroud researcher Joe Nickell wrote that no examples of herringbone weave are known from the time of Jesus. The few samples of burial cloths that are known from the era are made using plain weave.

          > In 2000, fragments of a burial shroud from the 1st century were discovered in a tomb near Jerusalem, believed to have belonged to a israeli high priest or member of the aristocracy. Based on this discovery, the researchers concluded that the Turin Shroud did not originate from Jesus-era Jerusalem.

          >The face and proportions of the shroud image are impossible, that the figure cannot represent that of an actual person and that the posture was inconsistent. The forehead on the shroud is too small; and that the arms are too long and of different lengths and that the distance from the eyebrows to the top of the head is non-representative. They concluded that the features can be explained if the shroud is a work of a Gothic artist.

          > As Raymond E. Brown noticed, a corpse in the relaxed position portrayed on the shroud could not be positioned such that its hand covers its genitals as portrayed. The right arm and hand in the image appear to have been elongated to make this possible.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >jesus can intercede on your behalf and protect you from any kind of malevolent entity
      >he won't do this unless you worship him and specifically ask for his protection
      >he loves everyone, though, even the nonbelievers being tormented by demons who he refuses to help because they haven't sucked his metaphysical dick enough
      yeah, miss me with that shit
      the god of abraham is the king of the demons
      any god who claims humans as his favorite animals is by default an evil god

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >No. Demons frick off when you're on Jesus's team.

      Untrue. God didn't even remove the demon plaguing Paul (satan's messenger thorn of the flesh)

      That's what god says but not the actual reality

      >resist the devil and he will flee from you!

      >actually being abused and hurt by satan is a good thing
      >actually I might just let satan destroy you for fun (story of job)
      >actually I might let satan be your thorn anyway (paul)
      >actually letting satan win is part of my mysterious plan
      >actually it depends on whatever I felt like that day
      >etc

      Using Jesus' name did not stop demonic oppression in my case. I was still abused mentally, spiritually and put in shitty situations. The only time Jesus' name worked is when I was fighting demons in a dream. I used to be really proud of that experience but now it feels like crumbs.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Demons frick off when you're on Jesus's team
      no your own soul (energy) does, you have the power of christ in you.

  2. 4 weeks ago
    Sage

    Frick off, devil lover. Christ is King.

  3. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Casting out demons has nothing to do with the
    bible. But Christ himself.

  4. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Demons exist in all faiths. Literally every single one. Even Buddhism has demons! This means that, of all the things in all faiths, demons must be the one thing we know for certain to be real.

    Wouldn't it be funny if demons came first, then people made religions to try to get rid of them? And if fearing them and fighting them only made them stronger, well that would explain a lot.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Wouldn't it be funny if demons came first
      They came after humans. And there are worse things than demons that do predate humans. Demons are the spirits of the bastards and the cursed of a lost age.
      Most cultures have a story of a Great Deluge as well. Put two and two together. That is their origin.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >Great Deluge

        Sometimes it's water, sometimes it's fire, sometimes it's dirt. Let's just call it the Cataclysm.

        What evidence can we find about demons appearing after humanity? Most of the faiths I am aware of either have demons made first by a god (usually a test-run of humans that went wrong) or the demons just always were their own thing in the void of whatever. Then god made a world and pissed them off.

        Maybe lesser demons and "bad spirits" came from the cataclysm? And the greater demons are from the before time and are technically something else?

        • 4 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Greater demons aren't really demons, but are still demonic in a sense. They're angels. Sometimes demons and fallen angels are used interchangeably, but angels are godlike in comparison. Demons proper are the spawn of those angels and human women. Hence they're called the bastards.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Most faiths don't have human-demon hybrids, though. You either are a demon or you aren't. So I think it might be safe to write this one off as a Judeo-Christina thing.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Most faiths don't have human-demon hybrids
            lol
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_demigods

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Demigods
            >Demons

            Not the same thing, tbh. A god is not a demon (except to Christians who see literally EVERYTHING as a demon except for Yaweh, Jesus and angels, be we already know they are wrong).

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Your "gods", especialy the Greco-Roman ones, are often portrayed as lustful, petty, vengeful, proud, and arrogant. They lie, cheat, and steal from each other and from mankind. They are just as bad as mankind if not worse. If they are not demons then they are just exaggerated stories of men.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            > Somehow ignores the fact their god destroys entire worlds when peeved
            > A god so insecure he can't abide by other gods at all
            > A god that literally feels challenged by his own creations
            > A god that sees humans as unworthy of being anything more than animals

            I think I'd rather follow some god who cheats at gambling, steals your wallet, then gets drunk and decides to bang both you and your girlfriend. Sounds like we're more their equals in that god's eyes. He also sounds way more secure and happy than yours.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            we cant use the bible as a reference here. nothing past a secondary source will get us close and the bible is like 5x copied over.
            Demons and angles could be the same, the difference lies in their actions. Demons and angles could be extraterrestrials, some who want to help and some that want to help themselves.

  5. 4 weeks ago
    Hermes

    I believe in malevolent brings. Therefore, why the FRICK would I disregard Christianity or any other religion? You morons will sit here trying to put a succubus in a fricking bottle then claim the Bible is bullshit just because mommy and daddy made you go to church one time. Burn in Hell

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      The Church stinks balls!

  6. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I've always respected Christians but as I get older I do realize that most of what they believe in is just nonsense projected by the evil. Even if there were a Christ that was resurrected, they don't know that and try to impress their image of Christ by believing in him, as though somehow Christ will show them favor. But they don't really necessarily change. It's all fake and on the surface.

    If you go to churches I think many of the people there are loveless and hateful demonically influenced people.

    What I get most about the story of Christ is that it is about what happens when someone goes against the pharisees. That is, what happens if you go against the rulers of this world.

    I think that fighting demons comes from within. If you have mastery over your own inner demons, then you'll be able to conquer demons outside of you. Perhaps there is a Christ that can help you, but I think that Christ is really ultimately the inner light of self knowledge and that's the way to cast out and overcome demons. The more darkness we have in us, the less we can fight demons because they can influence the weaknesses that we are not aware of.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I think that fighting demons comes from within. If you have mastery over your own inner demons, then you'll be able to conquer demons outside of you. Perhaps there is a Christ that can help you, but I think that Christ is really ultimately the inner light of self knowledge and that's the way to cast out and overcome demons. The more darkness we have in us, the less we can fight demons because they can influence the weaknesses that we are not aware of.
      The Kingdom of Heaven is within you.

  7. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Notice how you specifically said Jesus and not God

  8. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    are you the troony hivemind poster

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      no

  9. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I'm not an atheist. I have had encounters with the paranormal on many occasions. However as for modern Christianity, I feel like most of it is a farce. I do think that the story has value (it really does tell a moral lesson about what humanity would do if its messiah appeared, thus proving that humanity is not ready or worthy of it) but otherwise most Christians are trying to please an imaginary Christ in order to win his favor and they act with fake moral virtue, which in itself is almost like a demon and often is self righteous even if it pretends to be benevolent.

    If christ was a messiah (I have no way of knowing for certain) then most people that are Christian really don't have a real connection. They just repeat what they're supposed to in order to win favor of Christ. They suspect all critical judgment.

    I don't vibe with atheists at all because they discount the possibility of a God or higher power and refuse to acknowledge the possibility of Christ being the messiah. I don't do that. I am very open minded but am started to admit to myself that most christians are wasting their energy believing in something, rather than actually initiating a real spiritual evolution in themselves. They just think that they have to accept some story about christ and they will be "saved" and they can do some good deeds and they will be raptured, or whatever belief their denomination has. All that is just belief, it has no grounds in fact even if it turns out to be true. They don't know for a fact, they never saw it in a real vision or anything like that, they just repeat it in a self righteous way, kind of like how atheists repeat that there is no god and mock religion even though they themselves have no insight of their own.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      They're not ready, many can be described as spiritual mercenaries who are too ashamed to admit it.

  10. 4 weeks ago
    Justice

    NO OP
    becuase as below so above

    it means if one exists so does its counter.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Gonna play devil's advocate (lol) and say that there being a counter doesn't mean that counter is christianity.
      Not to mention, as above so below... Where does it ever say this implies a counter? And why do we assume this phrase is even accurate to reality?

      Yes, the god of Christianity is one of them. And this board needs a steady stream of anti/ exposing christ cuck threads to keep the raving israelite on a stick shills at bay.

      holy checked

  11. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the demons were here first. show some respect.
    https://rumble.com/vbgu6h-mystery-rogress-as-our-species-can-be-said-to-have-ched-in-humar-prever-the.html

  12. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, the god of Christianity is one of them. And this board needs a steady stream of anti/ exposing christ cuck threads to keep the raving israelite on a stick shills at bay.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >in actuality it is ineffective against them,
    No it isn't. God bless you and protect you, Amen. Let all curses be washed, in Jesus' blood. Amen. Let him or her be nourished. They are loved and so secured. God bless this person. Eternity

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      gods not your lackey that you can just make him do your bidding what are you thinking

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Congrats anon, this is what civilized man believed in for thousands of years, until 250 CE or so. Get a copy of the Udug Hul incantations and discover how we dealt with evil spirits before the israelites told us only they could handle them. The greatest exorcists were Sumerian and Babylonian.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Sumerian and Babylonian
      facts!

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