Christianity. >you missed the train, you are going to hell. Hinduism. >there will be another train in ten minutes

Christianity
>you missed the train, you are going to hell

Hinduism
>there will be another train in ten minutes

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    thats pretty fricking moronic anon

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's moronic in the sense that that's how 99% of the exoteric followers see it, doesn't make it any less real.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No you're just angry anon, you just let hate control you, Im sure you were recently screaming about israelites to someone.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No anon, i just made my morning coffee and i was drinking it, i'm not american so i don't dream about israelites.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no just Christians, who I assume you obsess over daily

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm not OP anon, and i was clearly referencing both christianity and hinduism when i said "exoteric followers". Control your victim complex, i didn't need to know you were a christian.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            So much for not letting hatred run you

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            he's calm, it's you that's malding

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >hes
            lol
            lmmao

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes, being emotional is a womanly trait, which is i assume what you are or hope to be

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            desperate for attention this morning eh?
            >No you are
            I didnt start the thread homie

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            bro you are literally chimping out here, if you can't behave, leave

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally cannot stop thinking about Americans

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Literally can't start thinking

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      hits the nail on the head, which is why you're seething uncontrollably, stay mad

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >that train is also going to hell
    >hey, why do you keep choosing the hell train?
    Gita 16.19-21:
    > Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, I perpetually cast into the ocean of material existence, into various demoniac species of life.
    > Attaining repeated birth amongst the species of demoniac life, O son of Kuntī, such persons can never approach Me. Gradually they sink down to the most abominable type of existence.
    > There are three gates leading to this hell – lust, anger and greed. Every sane man should give these up, for they lead to the degradation of the soul.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >lust, anger and greed
      well, that damns every indian male to hell

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    In fairness, hinduism also has texts talking about swarga and naraka.
    Swarga is said to be a realm where good people go temporarily for 3k to 4k years before returning again if they wish to, almost all of them end up coming back when they figure out that a "good" existence isn't for them, a neutral one is.
    Naraka(hell) is a place where you get tortured for the amount of sin you incur, usually around 800 years or so of torture.
    Whether your net karma is positive or negative kind of determines where you go even though there are exceptions.
    Unlike Christianity and other religions related to it, Sanatana Dharma is very clear that multiple lokas exist even beyond swarga, those can be the abode of the gods,siddhas, void realms, non-existence etc.
    Sanatana Dharma also acknowledges the existence of infinite universes which Christianity doesn't.

    Ultimately, both are ways of praying to the divine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      homie hes just an attention prostitute dont respond seriously, just point and laugh

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        aww she's mad she didn't get the attention she wanted

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Certain narakas in Hinduism are eternal as well as some beings are predestined to them based upon their guna in every tradition of Vedanta. Some beings have a tamasiac guna that makes them disregard the Vedic rituals and laws of purity.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Certain narakas in Hinduism are eternal
        Well, they do end at the time of total disillusionment do they not?, not exactly eternal but then again, kinda yes also because they'll exist again in the next (5th) creation.
        > as well as some beings are predestined to them based upon their guna in every tradition of Vedanta.
        This is absolutely true but the next part is a little weird
        >Some beings have a tamasiac guna that makes them disregard the Vedic rituals and laws of purity.
        Ugra Devi/Devatas are also tamasic yet they are really powerful are they not?
        Basically, you could definitely argue that there's the purification process that happens at the time of offering tamasic offerings but then again, these ugra Devi/Devatas are more powerful than almost all proper deities.
        Ugra devata upasana+sadhana is meant for Kali Yuga, it's what works best and gives good results.
        Despite the fact that ugra deities have tamasic attributes, they still follow the core teachings of the Vedas along with all that which was not taught through the Vedas.

        So if you wanna do practices which are from kriya yuga and were meant to be used throughout all the yugas except the current one, feel free to try but don't get frustrated if it doesn't work.
        Shiva in his active form( as Bhairava ) gave the tantras, knowing well enough that people of this time usually don't have what it takes to adhere to sanatana dharma, the modern day "hinduism" to me almost feels as if some asura hijacked the entire thing and is now inflicting mass scale harm, pain and suffering unto others through it.
        That's how terribly the quality of worship from the masses has fallen.

        But you know...
        You can't blame them, they don't like being blamed.
        I'll leave it at this.

        Good day to you 😀

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >they do end at the time of total disillusionment do they not?
          There is no "end". When one universe dissolves, souls not able to get out of samsara are held in the unmanifest state until they can engage with a new universe.
          The eternality of narakas are de facto - as in you COULD still get out, but the person keeps choosing the wrong way, and the only practical way they begin the path out is mercy.
          > tamasic yet they are really powerful
          People dominated by tamo guna can be very powerful.
          >tamasic attributes, they still follow the core teachings of the Vedas
          People are not entirely one or the other guna.
          >practices which are from kriya yuga and were meant to be used throughout all the yugas except the current one
          Practices are meant for the yuga they are promulgated in, but they work in all of them. It's just that situation is not conducive to them.
          You can still achieve moksha through thousands of years of meditation in Akli Yuga - good luck meditating for thousands of years.
          You could achieve moksha through grand temple service in Satya Yuga, but that wasnt what was recommended, so people didnt do it.
          Take the classic mountain top analogy. Those in Kriya Yuga are expert athletes and are offered a cliff wall to get up. Treta Yuga gets a path. Dvapara gets stairs, and those in Kali Yuga get an elevator.
          Could the expert athlete take the elevator? Sure, but they are there to climb the cliff. Could those in Kali Yuga take the cliff? Well they can try, but they shouldnt - they will fall. Just take the elevator.
          It all goes to the same place.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I can't take Hinduism seriously because their main followers are Indians.
    By their fruits you shall know them, and all that. If your followers make life miserable for everyone by simply existing, it's probably not a very good religion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Who follows religions anymore though? It's not a good indicative, just look at walmart, it's full of christians.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      same for me, kinda the same with Buddhism which is a shame as i don't dislike it.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    not really in hindusim there is a caste system and you just reincarnate through that system till you achive moksha or libreation

    to achive moksha yoi need to atleast have good intellectual abilty what if you get cursed and born into a lower caste how you are gonna achive moksha while suffering abd since you dont know about your past you just exist to suffer

    sure you might get another train but the train is filthy and overcrowded generally not a place you want to be in just like in india

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >to achive moksha yoi need to atleast have good intellectual abilty
      No you dont. You need wareness. Deer have achieved moksha. Deer are not smart.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        did the deer told you it achived moksha. in Hinduism aren't you supposed to study the vedas what if you are an illiterate you cant read or understand it. and what if you are born and nurtured into evil through bad things that happend in your life how does the karmic cycle work then

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Knowledge and reading are paths to get there. They are not required. Hanuman knew the Vedas without ever knowing how to read.
          >what if you are born and nurtured into evil
          That is also part of the karmic cycle. Some born into such a situation do so to see the evil and reject it. Some do so because they are due a life of evil. Some do so to be a paragon of tolerance and divine determination.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            hanuman is a god not a normal being but the point of existing just to suffer is a demeaning thing to sustain a society and life

            hindusim feels like a demonic religion to me because for every small thing you just get a bad coincidence if you are born into a life of suffering they just tell you its because you did something bad in the past imagine being an innocent child and growing up learning that all the bad things that happend you its because something you did in your past life you have no knowledge of

            so you become paralyzed unable to do anything there is no afterlife of happines just suffering after suffering. feels more like a prison

            if hindiusim is a great religion then why are indians and india in a bad condition

            abrahmic relgions and even buddhisim seems more sane because its easier for people to understand and in india with the caste system brahmins gatekeeps the knowledge and they are a bunch of merchants who control infest abd corrupt every part of society the point of religion is to give you a community hinduism doesent offer that

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >hanuman is a god not a normal being
            Incorrect. You have been a god before. You have been the highest a mortal soul can be as Lord Brahma before.
            Hanuman is special not by his god status, but by his conviction and adherence to Rama, which was not attained through jnana.
            There are many examples of those attaining moksha without reading texts. There is, ironically, a text about just this in the Avadhuta Gita.
            A soul that has spent many lifetimes is often born into a body simply knowing these things, and will not bother taking the time to be materially educated to begin their sadhana.
            >the point of existing just to suffer
            The point of this existence is to exhaust the desire to be in this existence. Part of the reason it gets exhausted is there is inherent suffering in eternal beings identifying with temporary manifestations.
            >hindusim feels like a demonic religion to me
            You dont understand it very well.
            >you become paralyzed unable to do anything
            Stop trying to unravel the gordian knot. Cut it in half. You are focusing on the karma and the cycle, trying to stop it to get out.
            All you need is to realize you have nothing to do with it, and drop it.
            But with or without education, that is very hard to do. Often, education gets in the way.
            >abrahmic relgions and even buddhisim seems more sane because its easier for people to understand
            Both of those paths are described and offered in Hinduism.
            But I agree - they are remedial understandings.
            >the point of religion is to give you a community hinduism doesent offer that
            Demonstrably untrue. There is as much a commuinity identity with Hinduism as with any. And that is a very material identity, and causes a lot of problems.
            You confuse religious label with the spiritual community, which can recognize and delight across religions, or no religion.

          • 1 month ago
            Krishna

            you seem knowledgeable, i want to learn about the Vedic krishna more. i only read the bhagavad-gita and am extremely partial toward it. what texts would you recommend?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Gita is great, if you are looking for moksha then likely the works of Shankaracarya. If you are looking for Krishna then Ramanuja Acarya and Lord Chaitanya.

            even though you say i everyone had many past lifes but we have no memories of it so whats the point of taking responsibility you dont know whats out there is no proof

            >The point of this existence is to exhaust the desire to be in this existence. Part of the reason it gets exhausted is there is inherent suffering in eternal beings identifying with temporary manifestations.
            thats sounds like a bunch of cope if we are meant to suffer then why did humanity use scientific discoveries to ease the suffering in many ways

            Upanishads 5.10.7“Those whose conduct has been good here will shortly get birth such as Brahmana (Brahamana yonim), a kshatriya, or a Vaishya. But those whose conduct has been evil will be born in evil births shortly such as the birth of a dog (shva yonim), or as a pig, or a chandala.”

            how do you explain this then is a god supposed to love and cherish all the living beings in this world hinduism and its doctrine seems demonic

            look no furthther than india itself a filthy uncivilized hellhole people dont have civic sense they dont have honour they scam cheat in every way throughout their life anyone who is born in india is cursed

            community by i meant unit cohession. india in its history got invaded pillaged because of caste that comes from hinduism only a specific caste is allowed to defend leaving the region vulnerable without enough

            even with all these gods india cant even function properly dont you think there would atleast be semblance of civilization

            there are poorer countries more cleaner and organized than india

            maybe hinduism is demonic because its followers keep feeding the demons energey through their worship keepong them in karmic reincarnation cycle and making them uglier

            hindus seem to integrate every religion to theirs because they wanna feel validated and appreciated but the nor the christians or buddhist dont want to associate with them

            >whats the point of taking responsibility
            As long as you identify with material energy, as long as you go "I am doing this", then you will suffer or enjoy the results.
            >we are meant to suffer
            Not what I said. We are meant to exist in joy, we ARENT meant to try and be the center of existence. Doing that is temporary, and causes suffering, but is allowed until you no longer want to try it.
            >how do you explain
            You are pointing to something describing how material energy works, and asking how God can love us enough to give us ways out of material energy.
            >criticism of a nation
            Yes, India has a lot of problems, and the rise of nationalism is another.
            >hinduism is demonic because its followers keep feeding the demons energey through their worship
            But who they are worshiping is western capitalism and yes - I would say those going for demonic goals like material wealth and pleasure.
            >hindus seem to integrate every religion to theirs
            They dont, just see how they treat muslims.
            But the Vedas understand and describe the different paths.

          • 1 month ago
            Krishna

            something tells me to just stick with the Bhagavad-Gita.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Which is fine. All the schools of Vedanta have bhasya (commentary) on the Gita.
            For Vaishnava schools, I recommend
            https://bhagavad-gita.org/
            It gives commentaries from the four Vaishnava schools, and stems from Gaudiya Math, not ISKCON.

          • 1 month ago
            Krishna

            i'm so tired of following religious dogma, so my eyes just glaze over when i read your advocacy of schools, etc. that's just my personal phase.

            all i know is brahman is the train always present to My Mind

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >dogma
            Arguing for a position is not necessarily dogma, but if we take you on the face of your words, it makes no sense to read the Gita and completely reject what people write.
            >all i know is brahman is the train always present to My Mind
            I dont disagree, but I point out you phrase it this way because of what others told you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            even though you say i everyone had many past lifes but we have no memories of it so whats the point of taking responsibility you dont know whats out there is no proof

            >The point of this existence is to exhaust the desire to be in this existence. Part of the reason it gets exhausted is there is inherent suffering in eternal beings identifying with temporary manifestations.
            thats sounds like a bunch of cope if we are meant to suffer then why did humanity use scientific discoveries to ease the suffering in many ways

            Upanishads 5.10.7“Those whose conduct has been good here will shortly get birth such as Brahmana (Brahamana yonim), a kshatriya, or a Vaishya. But those whose conduct has been evil will be born in evil births shortly such as the birth of a dog (shva yonim), or as a pig, or a chandala.”

            how do you explain this then is a god supposed to love and cherish all the living beings in this world hinduism and its doctrine seems demonic

            look no furthther than india itself a filthy uncivilized hellhole people dont have civic sense they dont have honour they scam cheat in every way throughout their life anyone who is born in india is cursed

            community by i meant unit cohession. india in its history got invaded pillaged because of caste that comes from hinduism only a specific caste is allowed to defend leaving the region vulnerable without enough

            even with all these gods india cant even function properly dont you think there would atleast be semblance of civilization

            there are poorer countries more cleaner and organized than india

            maybe hinduism is demonic because its followers keep feeding the demons energey through their worship keepong them in karmic reincarnation cycle and making them uglier

            hindus seem to integrate every religion to theirs because they wanna feel validated and appreciated but the nor the christians or buddhist dont want to associate with them

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It’s just biology, they are israelite brained Black folk.

          • 1 month ago
            Krishna

            India is the way it is because their Moral Order was overlaid thru the Dvapara Yuga to rely on the caste system. This was done by the Aryan conquest of the Indian subcontinent. Now that Kali Yuga has dissolved the caste system, the Supremely Moral Aryan Vedic system enters into the chaos of the Yuga more accurately and Truthfully than in societies outside of India. So if India is a "shithole" it's because it's Morally Honest yuga-yuga.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            how is vedic religion superior when its followers doesn't even have self awarness and how did the aryan conquest benefit them and all of these yugas seem to offer no consistencies in life it doesent motivate people
            why care when you are just blimp on these cosmic laws and cycles

            Abrahamic religions abhor idol worship for a reason

            i heard some christian pastors say its a demonic religion guess they are right

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            How is western society scientifically advanced if your average burger can’t engineer an iphone?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            not the average but there are people who can do it if trained.

            most scientific discoveries that build the modern world is from the west

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >hinduism
    The train goes to the next stop, but only if you've got the money, if you don't you go back one stop or more depending on how little money you have.
    >christianity
    You go to the end of the road or you go back to the first station. There are no stops.

    You will know in your heart what is true.

    Neither side will tell you

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The train station is bullshit is what I figure, all parts go to the junkyard for to be torn apart for scraps.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Buddhism
    >The train is an illusion and so are go. Let go of the illusion of yourself and the train and then you will not have to keep going on the train.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God is not an automated system and it's made clear in the Bible that God judges everyone in accordance to the contents of their hearts. It's more complex than that but that's basically the gist of it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So he has no basis in reality and is more of a nice fairy tale?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >God is not an automated system and it's made clear in the Bible that God judges everyone in accordance to the contents of their hearts.
      >USE THIS ONE WEIRD TRICK TO GET AROUND GOD'S JUDGEMENT!!
      >FULLY AUTOMATED!! IMMEDIATE ACCEPTANCE
      >JUSTICE MINDED FOLK HATE THIS!!

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Reality
    >You're the train

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The first one matters and the second one doesn't. Not that the train is particularly difficult to get on. It stays there waiting for you in the terminal until the day you die.

  11. 1 month ago
    Krishna
  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >another train in ten minutes
    Don't Hindus believe in hell realms that last billions of years?

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    jokes on you homosexual, i've got [Ticket To Ride]

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nonwhites aren’t humans

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does this mean something with sin?
    >you messed so your going to hell big time
    >hinduism: you can try again

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