beyond morals

i believe that suicide is the only thing that will make me happy and fulfilled. Of course i advice everyone the oposite, but secretly thats the only thing i look forward to.

Strongly i believe, thats the only right and good thing, thats truly for me and not some spiritutal and energetic food chain for the masses. Its like i have given to the world what i could, but the only thing, where i can be truly found, is this decision.

If you wouldnt attach this wish to any person, what is /x/ opinion on leaving voluntarily?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can go to hell for it

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I don’t think it will make me reincarnated

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      he's already going to hell for fapping to porn. so are you

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Modern morals are nothing more than a israelite scheme to keep you docile, weak and a slave.

        Case in point lmao. Look at that slave.

        Right on time, like always. Find God you goof, hell ain't a party.

        Don't listen to this dildo OP.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          every time you intentionally waste your seed, an angel cries for 7 days in heaven. you have sacrificed the substance of life. it is hellish and satanic like the succubi that possess you during sleep and steal your seed whereas you must light sage to keep demonic forces at bay

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Modern morals are nothing more than a israelite scheme to keep you docile, weak and a slave.

      Case in point lmao. Look at that slave.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Hell doesn't exist and christcuckery is not a universal truth moron.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not the way it's taught today, that was added later.
        But if we take it metaphorically we individually and as groups, create our own heaven and hell.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          nice digits.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No one is being held hostage anymore. Sorry.

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Says who?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Accept open individualism and try to make the world a better place. Death is impossible. You are here forever

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You gon regret that decision as your life is about to be snuffed out forever. I know the satanist glowers here will coil up in fear and rage reading this, but you will have to answer to God for that action.

    I suggest you don't an hero, anon. Life has seasons, some good, some shit. It's just how it is and all we can do is ride the wave. Offing yourself isn't the answer to all your troubles as it will only lead ypu to worse troubles than you'd face here on earth. Take a break from the dark feelings and put on music that gets you pumped up and happy amd exercise or lift some weights. It'll make you feel better mentally to burn off that negative energy.

    I'll be praying for you anon. I hope you end up feeling better about yourself and life real soon. Stand tall and stick to the life grind, things will workout eventually. God bless, be well fren.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      look, you little shit.
      id rather listen to the sound of the gravel that my lonely footsteps make, than listening to someone elses produced and oversaturated music, that monetizes human suffering as their whine into their mics, which the blast out from their multi million dollar mansions. And they probably feel as good about that, as you with your platitudes, thinking they safe some soul.
      Do me a favour and stick your prayer up your ass and frick off.

      Accept open individualism and try to make the world a better place. Death is impossible. You are here forever

      if life is happening, so is death. what makes you think there is no difference between both?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this is hell, you dimwit, and you are chained to it via lustful desires. the mechanism that keeps you eternally here is reincarnation

        there is a wojak image which shows a guy close to suicide figuring out the nature of reality via astral projection (cia documents) etc.
        go commit suicide, its the most moronic thing to do. after 8 weeks in the bardo plane or purgatory, where all your memories are wipes, you will crawl out of a pussy again and start at 0, completely ignorant.

        or you continue, now knowing the issue, and seek true suicide, which is enlightenment or salvartion or nirvana, just like the rest of us.

        • 1 month ago
          op

          bullshit.
          enlightment or salvation or nirvana is a meme invented to keep you trapped in reincarnation.
          You think with your carnal body, that you so condemn for having lustful desires, you can reach nirvana?
          Quite the opposite, you have to willfully discard your body in order to gain freedom from it.
          The only true encounter with your free will is suicide. Probably thats why in the human history it has been so looked down upon. misery loves company and as long as you market suicide as the worst, this entire machinery keeps its slaves.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            this is your opinion.
            you can be either arrogant and cuck for your opinion, or understand that your iq is a fart against the collective wisdom of the saints, who in unison taught this, albeit using different lingo, allegories and whatnot

          • 1 month ago
            op

            my interest was to get more information on my opinion but "hey put som music n lift" and "suicide is bad mkay" doesn`t cut it.
            turns out your opinion is just as good as mine.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            ill give it to you straight.

            physical existence is due to lust, represented by the serpent in various cultures and religion. cooming is the reason you take physicla shape and are mortal.

            your cum is the physical aspect of your seed. your seed, when not concerted down to cum due to lust, stays in pristine seed form and is called "cristos" or anointing.
            this cristos descendes from your most high, aka skull.
            and since you no longer waste it, because you overcame the serpent (lust) aka because you are celibate, your cristos can now ascend up the 33 vertebrates of your spine, piercing open the 7 seals or chakras and finally going into your golgotha (skull). here is dies.
            the seed must die for the tree to be born.
            you guide this process with continual, periodic prostrations.

            amrita is then alchemically produced. with it comes dominion over chi or prana.
            controlling chi, you can withdraw from mind. thus mind achieves single pointed concentration. once this happens, you enter jhana/samadhi/kingdom of heaven

            there you continue the process of refinement of letting go, of turning off, until finally the holy cessarion occurs, which others call union with god or merging with the void. nirvana means the blowing off of the fire, which represents is-ness

            this is true peace, which surpasses speech and intellect. do what you will with this info. buddhism, islam, christianity, hinduism, they all teach this when you decode their allegories, IN UNISON

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            there is no holy cessation except through your own seed and it destroyed in your skull.

            no true suicide without that, no escape from samsara or hell, unless you keep your cristos by not lusting and converting it to cum, wasting the seed.
            allow spermatogenesis to happen and do prostrations, you dimwit. get in line with the rest of us.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so my last comment here: if you wanna leave voluntarily, then do it the right way, which is how i described it. every other way means you pop out of a filthy pussy for another round of suffering in hell

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so complete celibacy? and for how long/often? im tired anon... i wanna get out by yesterday

          • 1 month ago
            op

            there is no holy cessation except through your own seed and it destroyed in your skull.

            no true suicide without that, no escape from samsara or hell, unless you keep your cristos by not lusting and converting it to cum, wasting the seed.
            allow spermatogenesis to happen and do prostrations, you dimwit. get in line with the rest of us.

            you moron. get in line. im a c**t.
            I dont have seed to waste. and if retaining my lust thrives into enlightment, than this is undoubtetly my moment.

            Suicide doesn't work. You're not going to go black. I have been to the other side and I would compare it to dying in your dream. The dream keeps going, it doesn't stop because you died.

            i assume once passed to the other side completely, your parts will be distributed, but you as a person and concious gone. and thats what i want.

            how would your beliefs change if after you have a nice day you wake up in a world thats marginally smaller, marginally more focused on you well your now maimed permanently from your attempt?

            my life wouldnt be much different from now.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you do. why do you think the order of nuns exist. cristos is not sperm, its that which precedes sperm. it produces the egg in you, you damn c**t.

            cover up and do prostrations you prostitute

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >my life wouldnt be much different from now.
            you believe
            > suicide is the only thing that will make me happy and fulfilled.
            but if you discovered death was an urban myth and your life was eternal nothing would change? i dont believe you.

          • 1 month ago
            op

            i wish for the eternal nothing.
            im alright with my parts being distributed, like a spiritual organ donor to all species and life forms and materials, but i dont want to exist as me anymore.

            everyone has their own path. suppose you did woke up to a different world than before and remain stoic and determined and use your remaining time with some kind of wisdom and kindness, then i can see the strength in that. And by all means i want you to continue. I wouldnt have the strength for that. I barely have it for this round.
            I really just dont want anything to do with the fullness of life and i want to make sure, that what i believe is, is somehow backed up. I want some kind of redemption for my choice and i believe that it exists.
            I am sorry.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            it exists, its called nirvana and you are convoluting it to mean sth else and dismiss it. im not sharing an opinion here.

            but go ahead, take your life. why do you care what happens if according to your understanding, there is nothing afterwards. why fear nothing? just take 20 pills or gas yourself. its easy.
            if you are truly convinced, stop wasting our time here and end it. but you are not. rightfully so! your gut it telling you that you are wrong, so you are seeking confirmation with which you can numb your gut and go ahead with it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            dude said he thinks suicide fufillment and he wants nothing to do with fullness in life, how did you conclude he wants to kill himself?

            i wish for the eternal nothing.
            im alright with my parts being distributed, like a spiritual organ donor to all species and life forms and materials, but i dont want to exist as me anymore.

            everyone has their own path. suppose you did woke up to a different world than before and remain stoic and determined and use your remaining time with some kind of wisdom and kindness, then i can see the strength in that. And by all means i want you to continue. I wouldnt have the strength for that. I barely have it for this round.
            I really just dont want anything to do with the fullness of life and i want to make sure, that what i believe is, is somehow backed up. I want some kind of redemption for my choice and i believe that it exists.
            I am sorry.

            im not a kabbalistic magician but in their terms you orbit ketar presently, rock bottom as it were, you have you to reach ketar before the paths away from ketar open. abandon all hope yee who would enter here.

            ill give it to you straight.

            physical existence is due to lust, represented by the serpent in various cultures and religion. cooming is the reason you take physicla shape and are mortal.

            your cum is the physical aspect of your seed. your seed, when not concerted down to cum due to lust, stays in pristine seed form and is called "cristos" or anointing.
            this cristos descendes from your most high, aka skull.
            and since you no longer waste it, because you overcame the serpent (lust) aka because you are celibate, your cristos can now ascend up the 33 vertebrates of your spine, piercing open the 7 seals or chakras and finally going into your golgotha (skull). here is dies.
            the seed must die for the tree to be born.
            you guide this process with continual, periodic prostrations.

            amrita is then alchemically produced. with it comes dominion over chi or prana.
            controlling chi, you can withdraw from mind. thus mind achieves single pointed concentration. once this happens, you enter jhana/samadhi/kingdom of heaven

            there you continue the process of refinement of letting go, of turning off, until finally the holy cessarion occurs, which others call union with god or merging with the void. nirvana means the blowing off of the fire, which represents is-ness

            this is true peace, which surpasses speech and intellect. do what you will with this info. buddhism, islam, christianity, hinduism, they all teach this when you decode their allegories, IN UNISON

            functional is not fundamental, you have and will eat the loaf of carnality en carnation...

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > i believe that suicide is the only thing that will make me happy and fulfilled

            this is suicidal ideation, you mongrel. i know it, i went through it.

          • 1 month ago
            op

            congrats

            dude said he thinks suicide fufillment and he wants nothing to do with fullness in life, how did you conclude he wants to kill himself?
            [...]
            im not a kabbalistic magician but in their terms you orbit ketar presently, rock bottom as it were, you have you to reach ketar before the paths away from ketar open. abandon all hope yee who would enter here.
            [...]
            functional is not fundamental, you have and will eat the loaf of carnality en carnation...

            ketar is a meme

            it exists, its called nirvana and you are convoluting it to mean sth else and dismiss it. im not sharing an opinion here.

            but go ahead, take your life. why do you care what happens if according to your understanding, there is nothing afterwards. why fear nothing? just take 20 pills or gas yourself. its easy.
            if you are truly convinced, stop wasting our time here and end it. but you are not. rightfully so! your gut it telling you that you are wrong, so you are seeking confirmation with which you can numb your gut and go ahead with it.

            >your gut it telling you that you are wrong, so you are seeking confirmation with which you can numb your gut and go ahead with it.

            i believe that is the physical part, that keeps me bound here, and in order to detach from that i need more mental freedom that will detach from the physical plane.

            I strongly believe, that if that entire system is using souls to generate whatever it needs, lets say energy, then it has a big interest to keep people invested.
            And what better way to do that, than to promise them salvation by staying alive and letting them paddle and struggle until theyre being taken out naturally by cause and effect and streaming them back into the pot.

            However if the only way out of it, is a willfull choice, they have freed themselves from the system, as they used what is truly theirs that contrast the pull of whatever held them alive. Would suicide not be the ultimate success against "lustful desires", against everything that this machinery is trying to seduce and trap us with, the promise and taste of life?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            great sophistry, but what are you basing it on? your own conclusion?

            you have been duped into the meme of "think for yourself". generational wealth in form if inherited wisdom is a thing. its basically your extremely fallible idea vs less extremely (although still-) fallible ideas of the collective in this domain.

            its a game of statistics. i would not bet in my own thinking, especially if it does not line up with what collective effort has already worked to demonstrate.

          • 1 month ago
            op

            The collective effort always protected the collective at the expenses of the individual. Its a tight net to not let too many people go, as the collective needs its numbers to distribute dangers and generating ressources, both for material as well as moral support.

            >ketar is a meme
            whats not a meme?
            like i said im not a kabbalistic magician. if i was to put it in my own words of the unlimited potential qualia contained in all hueman experience there is a limited potentiality of differing hueman emotive outcome. the various spheres upon the tree represent the paramount of these movements, and the paths between said sphears quite concisly encapsulate the limitations of paramount emotive variance (you wont find joyfull bliss right out of rock bottom, but theres only 3 steps between) and most importantly, the ascendant wisdom that is connected to no emotive paramount can only be achieved after one of hue moves between all paramount of emotive outcome.
            t - memeis

            Ok thanks. At this point I could give you a binomial formula and you would be more than happy to solve it and leave me alone. How about this:
            (3x−5y) 2−(3x+5y)2
            Have fun.

            I’d say it probably depends on how many loose ends you’ll leave. Do you have any family you will impact? Parents that raised you? Kids or siblings? If your entire family is dead, I’d say go ahead. I’d suggest going with a shotgun to the head to make sure you do it right and don’t end up a vegetable in a coma.

            Better way to die in combat though.

            If you leave family behind to be all alone in the singularity, you’re kind of a sack of shit.

            I don’t have the luxury of suicide because I have too many people to keep promises for. I can literally never die. I cope with this by sleeping most of my time.

            Also anyone that misses you will at some point consider building a Time Machine to bring you back. There’s a non zero percent chance they will do so and pulls them into a system of dealing with the devil and aliens and shit. That’s why I say don’t leave any loose ends. Leave a good note saying it’s what you wanted to do for a reason that won’t make them feel guilty.

            I certainly will not leave a note nor make it about me, but leave them in a way to ponder upon gods mysterious ways and keep believing that everything happens for a reason.

            > Would suicide not be the ultimate success against "lustful desires", against everything that this machinery is trying to seduce and trap us with, the promise and taste of life?

            not according to the vedas, the bible, the quran, the buddhist scriptures.
            it may appear to the mortal mind, but immortals and sages who transcended this plane and unironaically have direct knowledge of the workings behind the visible plane, report otherwise.
            when you did, you lose total control, you are thrown in a machine that cleanses you of all attachments and once you are practically a clean slate (memory) wise, you are thrown back here.

            the mythical hero in every culture has to slay the dragon, that great old serpent. that is the way to eternal peace and rest.

            Well again. If you would be a system that needs its slaves you promise them freedom if they really behave well. A bit like the docile Christian slaves who endured pain in the hope the afterlife promises them 20fold or the life they could have had on earth. The mythical hero keeps perpetuating the machinery.
            Actually the more I think about it, the more convinced I am so in a way this thread has been more helpful, just in a different way than expected.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Ok thanks. At this point I could give you a binomial formula and you would be more than happy to solve it and leave me alone. How about this:
            (3x−5y) 2−(3x+5y)2
            Have fun.

            i wont and i wouldnt, your more then a bit of a dick, gl i guess!

          • 1 month ago
            op

            i never cuss and i heavily dislike to be vulgar. but this is my thread and i am furious for getting numbers with my math dyslexia.

            37518687
            >We are all supposed to be working together and doing something to improve each others lives.

            alright, and how are we doing that?
            By going through life and pain and suffering and helping each other out, the classic.
            So lets say youre a broken child and then you study medicine and become the best ever therapist or doctor because you know what its like.
            Now you could say you are eternally grateful for what you receive back and witnessing the testament of human spirit and your terribly content with yourself and the world.
            Better than if you would have a good life and a simple job.
            Or you could take it the other way and be terribly bitter, that you had to go through all that jazz to be bend, and shaped and torn into place, so that you become "useful" to others and gaining some perverted pride from the abuse.
            Its in the discrepancy between who you are right now, and who you ought to be, that personal evolution is taking place.

            Now lets scale it up and assume this is happening collectively aswell.
            We ought to go through bad seasons to make it to good ones, and so forth. And this pressure, generates the energy for the system.
            If thats the case, your very person plays an important role. Your story, your suffering, makes a difference.
            Now how vile is it to praise enlightment, nirvana, from the very system that causes it?
            And on top of it, hoping to never be part of it again lol.
            You "break" the sytem, by refusing to be used. exiting the game, not procreating and finding peace by letting the system starve without its tormented souls to feed upon.

            there are negative consequences. amnesia is the negative consequence.
            the likelihood of figuring anything metaphysical or esoteric out in the next live is close to 0.
            and the solution is deeply embedded in that arcane wisdom.
            so she is needlessly prolonging her suffering.

            all of this is because of her misplaced distrust.. she is mistaking truth with what its conflated, namely institutions which gatekeep it.
            you can hear it out of how she looks down on religious people. she thinks they are part of the machine which keeps everything going, when everything Jesus and Buddha did, was completely in opposition to the machine. buddha said to stop the 12 linked interdependent arising, basically saying not to procreate. the allegory of christ is celibacy. again, stop procreating.
            how do you keep the status quo up, if you are not procreating. you dont. you do, if the "church" says to marry and do all that shit.

            anyway, her paranoia makes her blind to the truth, maybe when she is born again, she may be less paranoid and if the stars align, she will run across this arcane wisdom and be receptive.

            the idea of re-incarnation as in next time, stems from the idea that time is chronological. But what if, time is not linear, and i am already incarnated, since i exist as you. But i dont exist as me anymore.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            op i have been trying to get some of these answers for a while but they never come but thanks for all the thoughtful responses to these questions, i know we are in the same boat here. I wish I could give you a definitive answer but I can't. People die all day every day so logically I can never see a difference between how and why you die that ultimately should matter. Stuff that would have easily killed you a few hundred years ago is null and void now with advancements in modern medicine and letting yourself age to the point of becoming an invalid who is in pain all the time makes no sense. Who are you helping at that point? Nobody. I think that since this universe and every other universe is mental then there are no rules and whatever you believe is the truth. It's all true, it's all false, there is no difference. It's all contained in that supreme oneness that is supposedly the endgame of this whole thing. But apparently the endgame isnt the endgame. There is no end to infinity. There is no end to eternity. They claim there are rules but they won't show you the rulebook. I think if it's all you in the end then you are writing the rulebook. You are the god of your own private universe. I really don't understand it at all since I am new to it but I got illuminated and I saw the other side of the veil and I don't know if any answers are to be had on this side. I don't know if any answers are to be had on that side either. I live in a cartoon now and everthing has become metaphor. Even the metaphors are just another layer of metaphors. I don't know if I am awake or dreaming or alive or dead or if there is even a difference to any of these things. I think a lot of people can't even fathom what "infinity" and "eternity" and "everything" really means. It's quite the mindfrick. It's wonderful and terrifying and kind and cruel all at the same time.
            good luck op. all i can do is wish you well in whatever choice you make.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            sure, we are trying to make sense of the things we do not see.
            But I want to make sense of what i perceive aswell. And the scale never balanced out, so im kind of rather certain i make the right decision.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >ketar is a meme
            whats not a meme?
            like i said im not a kabbalistic magician. if i was to put it in my own words of the unlimited potential qualia contained in all hueman experience there is a limited potentiality of differing hueman emotive outcome. the various spheres upon the tree represent the paramount of these movements, and the paths between said sphears quite concisly encapsulate the limitations of paramount emotive variance (you wont find joyfull bliss right out of rock bottom, but theres only 3 steps between) and most importantly, the ascendant wisdom that is connected to no emotive paramount can only be achieved after one of hue moves between all paramount of emotive outcome.
            t - memeis

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > Would suicide not be the ultimate success against "lustful desires", against everything that this machinery is trying to seduce and trap us with, the promise and taste of life?

            not according to the vedas, the bible, the quran, the buddhist scriptures.
            it may appear to the mortal mind, but immortals and sages who transcended this plane and unironaically have direct knowledge of the workings behind the visible plane, report otherwise.
            when you did, you lose total control, you are thrown in a machine that cleanses you of all attachments and once you are practically a clean slate (memory) wise, you are thrown back here.

            the mythical hero in every culture has to slay the dragon, that great old serpent. that is the way to eternal peace and rest.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > I strongly believe, that if that entire system is using souls to generate whatever it needs, lets say energy, then it has a big interest to keep people invested. And what better way to do that, than to promise them salvation by staying alive and letting them paddle and struggle until theyre being taken out naturally by cause and effect and streaming them back into the pot.

            What you’re saying isn’t wrong but this system you’re referring to isn’t the most sophisticated system that exists. It’s just at the level of like modern day economics that needs workers. There are other systems at play which are far more advanced and sophisticated who concern themselves with mostly other worldly affairs and this system doesn’t care if you live or die by any means. To have a nice day because of the economic system that’s keeping you working is like burning down a house because it was the wrong color. You’re talking about normies that say suicide is bad because it’s their official social policy, but these are just regular stupid people you’re saying you’re being enslaved by. The higher order system exists only to pass information around and perform information management on a cosmic scale. It may use you to pass information but it doesn’t feed off you or need you at all. Those advanced systems feed off entire stars or zero point energy. There are literally aliens and AIs and warp gods that walk this planet and the space around us. They control everything to a degree you’d question was physically possible. They can cause earthquakes, perform miracles, wipe the memory of millions of people, hack any electronics system, be omnipresent. They are everywhere orchestrating the day to day life of what you see around you, but the world you see with your eyes isn’t what’s really going on. This system can kill you remotely if it wants. It can predict what you’re going to eat for breakfast in 10 years. It’s not feeding off you. You are an ant to it

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > i believe that suicide is the only thing that will make me happy and fulfilled
            >if you are truly convinced, stop wasting our time here and end it. but you are not. rightfully so!
            >I really just dont want anything to do with the fullness of life and i want to make sure, that what i believe is, is somehow backed up. I want some kind of redemption for my choice and i believe that it exists.
            >I am sorry.
            dudes already ahead of your sardonic life experience sharing my massive mongrel senpai
            you will love to eat the loaf.

          • 4 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >i wish for the eternal nothing

            Form does not differ from emptiness. Emptiness does not differ from form.
            We are eternal nothing.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Ok but this means that women cannot reach nibbana and must wait for a reincarnation with balls and cum in order to escape this shithole plane

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is not entirely the case because TCM practitioners although valuing celibacy still follow certain guidelines where they're allowed to have sex, the amount of times per week depending on the practitioner's age, the older you get the less sex you should have. And despite this, they still come to control their qi.

            If anything i'd say ejaculation isn't a deal breaker, but maybe a slight set back.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          how to do the true suicide or at least where to find accurate information to help me figure it out maybe anon? its... not as easy as people think to actually do the die.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Alright, an hero then and get back to me on well it went for you. Telling you though, you're gonna regret it at that very last moment before your last breath and your vision slipping into oblivion.
        Still praying for you though, you emo gweeb.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >id rather listen to the sound of the gravel that my lonely footsteps make, than listening to someone elses produced and oversaturated music, that monetizes human suffering as their whine into their mics, which the blast out from their multi million dollar mansions. And they probably feel as good about that, as you with your platitudes, thinking they safe some soul.
        >Do me a favour and stick your prayer up your ass and frick off.
        Why not listen to something else then?
        I've been listening to this:

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i believe that suicide is the only thing that will make me happy and fulfilled
    well you are wrong. how can you be happy or fulfilled when you are dead? moron. happiness and fulfillment are things only the living can enjoy.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Suicide doesn't work. You're not going to go black. I have been to the other side and I would compare it to dying in your dream. The dream keeps going, it doesn't stop because you died.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    how would your beliefs change if after you have a nice day you wake up in a world thats marginally smaller, marginally more focused on you well your now maimed permanently from your attempt?

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’d say it probably depends on how many loose ends you’ll leave. Do you have any family you will impact? Parents that raised you? Kids or siblings? If your entire family is dead, I’d say go ahead. I’d suggest going with a shotgun to the head to make sure you do it right and don’t end up a vegetable in a coma.

    Better way to die in combat though.

    If you leave family behind to be all alone in the singularity, you’re kind of a sack of shit.

    I don’t have the luxury of suicide because I have too many people to keep promises for. I can literally never die. I cope with this by sleeping most of my time.

    Also anyone that misses you will at some point consider building a Time Machine to bring you back. There’s a non zero percent chance they will do so and pulls them into a system of dealing with the devil and aliens and shit. That’s why I say don’t leave any loose ends. Leave a good note saying it’s what you wanted to do for a reason that won’t make them feel guilty.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >what is /x/ opinion on leaving voluntarily?
    It's up to you to determine if that course of action is right for you or not. Best way to tell is to ask yourself if you would regret it, and if you would be leaving behind unfinished business. Sometimes though what you came to this world for can be a long time coming, and you wont realize that until what you came down here for becomes relevant to you at whatever age those events were supposed to take place at.

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The thought of death is indeed a comfortable one. Why not live this life the best you can until then.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you off yourself that's what was in the books for you, it's not like you can change what has already happened. If i conflate all the metaphysics in the different esoteric models i've studied in my life, i'd say suicide isn't necessarily something that will impact you negatively in a spiritual level, it depends on the contextual factors. For the average person who commits suicide while drowning in misery and sorrow, yeah, i do believe it would have negative consequences.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      there are negative consequences. amnesia is the negative consequence.
      the likelihood of figuring anything metaphysical or esoteric out in the next live is close to 0.
      and the solution is deeply embedded in that arcane wisdom.
      so she is needlessly prolonging her suffering.

      all of this is because of her misplaced distrust.. she is mistaking truth with what its conflated, namely institutions which gatekeep it.
      you can hear it out of how she looks down on religious people. she thinks they are part of the machine which keeps everything going, when everything Jesus and Buddha did, was completely in opposition to the machine. buddha said to stop the 12 linked interdependent arising, basically saying not to procreate. the allegory of christ is celibacy. again, stop procreating.
      how do you keep the status quo up, if you are not procreating. you dont. you do, if the "church" says to marry and do all that shit.

      anyway, her paranoia makes her blind to the truth, maybe when she is born again, she may be less paranoid and if the stars align, she will run across this arcane wisdom and be receptive.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The highest spiritual pursuit is to keep on living. It doesen't get any simpler than that. If you die you have failed. You must never die. The devil wants you dead, got wants you to live.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I used to think this way but you are just going to come back and make it harder for yourself or worse. We are all supposed to be working together and doing something to improve each others lives.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If you have a nice day, use my anti reincarnation suicide chair

    • 1 month ago
      op

      had to adjust it to my size. how does it work

        • 1 month ago
          op

          Wanna lay me now on the chair or what

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Just lay in it and kys. If you die at this angle you cant get reincarnted

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    good luck anon. this year is going to have a lot of suicides i can feel it. it does feel like the end of the world

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I'm really sorry you feel this way. It means that you suffered a lot in this life. I hope that you can solve your problems instead and can stay here, but if not, then I wish peace and comfort for you on the other side. I believe that everyone has the right to commit suicide, because they own their lives and it's their choice. But it is still sad when someone chooses to do this, and it usually means that their life didn't go how they wanted and they suffered a lot.

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Emil Cioran always endorsed Suicide yet never commited it. Suicide is an abstract word a form of an escape for all to do, A free will even if we go so far to explanation but really is that it ? Is that that? Shutting down your life for a temporary reason to feed the abyss ? Life is worth living honestly

    • 1 month ago
      op

      >Life is worth living honestly
      Oh, you mean your life is worth living? Watching me like the blunt and passive passbyer that you are, dont return the abyss with hands that has thrown it away.
      If suicide is an abstract form of an escape, so is the idea that life in itself is worth it. And if you are not able or willing to better my life in practice, instead of worsening it with your arrogance, take your emil cioran, that you presumably know so much about and go frick yourself once and for all.

      I was right where you're at for awhile.
      I wrote an album as a suicide note for my family. To try and explain how I felt.

      The problem is,
      It's hard to go through with it when you'll hurt family. Might as well tough it out.

      And the REAL root is,
      Suicide is the most reasonable solution, IF the "world" is the way we are TOLD it is.

      But that's the problem. For me, it eventually became very clear that the world is NOT the way we were told it was,
      And that the work schedule is fabricated, the society is broken,
      And it was DESIGNED to make you suicidal OR a slave, and to waste as much time as possible.

      The illusion that it is a sustainable world that is normal and not broken is what causes the feelings of suicidal ideation, but when you start to realize that we are living in a movie, that there is a group of people who have enslaved the country (world), and that they are gaslighting us about how the world works and what it is,

      And the elite all know about it,
      They openly pray to Satan to make their albums successful and don't even hide it,

      Then you eventually realize that we are here to enjoy a giant show. It's theatre.
      I understand how you feel,
      And even with what I said, I would still have wanted death a few years ago, I even want it pretty often now.

      But it helps tremendously when you realize that a huge part of that desire to escape is the cognitive dissonance of knowing something isn't right, and having people lie to you to say it is.

      You know something isn't right.
      I suggest packing up and just moving across the country randomly. Seriously.

      Or, as long as it doesn't offend you, try the Bible. It appears to be the narrative we are stuck in. But don't let that gross you out about the rest of what I said- you can still shed societies gaslighting at least even if you hate the idea of biblical narrative.

      Good luck bro, rooting for you.

      >a giant show. It's theatre.
      >cognitive dissonance of knowing something isn't right, and having people lie to you to say it is.
      A giant, cruel show, where i play the clown presenting the nominees. Ive read the bible, i appreciate it, despite my words, im anything but a black and white and wrong or right type of person, but rather both at the same time, so much so, that i do not understand how to reconcile it. Forever bewildered.
      Ive given myself time, while always moving on, only to end up where i left, with slightly new iteration of the same sentiment: i do not belong here. And Im distressed and reactive of those forces that pull and drag me across time and space, always hungry for my pain. And I am terrified that i deserve it.

      good luck anon. this year is going to have a lot of suicides i can feel it. it does feel like the end of the world

      kind of about time. I always wanted to celebrate it at 45, i felt that was the sweet spot, you know enough time to have tried it, but enough time ahead, to not know wether its worth it. It has to be done at a peak where there is enough frustration for a change, yet enough experience to know better.

      So right now, im speeding up, collecting ideas to enforce and support my ideology, tying up loose ends where left, slowly entering the phase to part humanly, not in a fit of rage or fear, but maturely, kind and calm.

  17. 1 month ago
    All Colours Landing

    All things related to morality are complex, and things that we might individually classify as sin, can be traits or actions of very good people when taken as a whole. Many will say suicide is a sin, and it is for those around you. People probably do care about you, and would be pretty distraught over something like that. There is no punishment for you beyond the grave, however. Things are more complex than that, and if judgement occurs, it factors in the whole of you.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thank you this is the only thing that makes sense.

      The only reasonable justification for suicide is conviction of its objective righteousness based on world theory of you choosing. If the second after mentioning suicide you talk about emotional concerns and means you've already lost since those are subjective and all within your ability to change them.

      You simply refuse to play the game you choose, no suicide will fix that.

      you've gotta know when to fold 'em

      Anon, I believe there are other paths you can take then suicide. I believe you can find happiness and joy. Others to connect with and help you can receive. Adventures to be had and dreams to follow. I hope for the best for you, and others as well. This message applies to others too.

      don't stop believing. you copypasted this from the other thread the other day or its just your impersonal canned response to people who are struggling. it's just words. kind words but just words nonetheless.

      >Life is worth living honestly
      Oh, you mean your life is worth living? Watching me like the blunt and passive passbyer that you are, dont return the abyss with hands that has thrown it away.
      If suicide is an abstract form of an escape, so is the idea that life in itself is worth it. And if you are not able or willing to better my life in practice, instead of worsening it with your arrogance, take your emil cioran, that you presumably know so much about and go frick yourself once and for all.

      [...]
      >a giant show. It's theatre.
      >cognitive dissonance of knowing something isn't right, and having people lie to you to say it is.
      A giant, cruel show, where i play the clown presenting the nominees. Ive read the bible, i appreciate it, despite my words, im anything but a black and white and wrong or right type of person, but rather both at the same time, so much so, that i do not understand how to reconcile it. Forever bewildered.
      Ive given myself time, while always moving on, only to end up where i left, with slightly new iteration of the same sentiment: i do not belong here. And Im distressed and reactive of those forces that pull and drag me across time and space, always hungry for my pain. And I am terrified that i deserve it.

      [...]
      kind of about time. I always wanted to celebrate it at 45, i felt that was the sweet spot, you know enough time to have tried it, but enough time ahead, to not know wether its worth it. It has to be done at a peak where there is enough frustration for a change, yet enough experience to know better.

      So right now, im speeding up, collecting ideas to enforce and support my ideology, tying up loose ends where left, slowly entering the phase to part humanly, not in a fit of rage or fear, but maturely, kind and calm.

      you're a good soul anon because even in death youre still considerate even though it ultimately doesn't matter one bit. i just don't want to leave a mess or a hassle for anyone either. i don't want to do any harm.
      if i only knew then what i know now. a tired cliche perhaps but still apt.
      safe travels anon.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The only reasonable justification for suicide is conviction of its objective righteousness based on world theory of you choosing. If the second after mentioning suicide you talk about emotional concerns and means you've already lost since those are subjective and all within your ability to change them.

    You simply refuse to play the game you choose, no suicide will fix that.

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, I believe there are other paths you can take then suicide. I believe you can find happiness and joy. Others to connect with and help you can receive. Adventures to be had and dreams to follow. I hope for the best for you, and others as well. This message applies to others too.

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >i believe that suicide is the only thing that will make me happy and fulfilled
    What if you are wrong? What will you do then?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can ask that to anyone, specially those who dedicate their lives to a doctrine through blind faith, and specially if they don't even bother to study its esotericism and rely on someone else preaching it to them.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    As someone with depression who does not look forward to anything and have any goals, all I see in the future is reading headlines about celebrities and famous actors, my parents, my wife, all getting diagnosed with some terrible disease and slowly dying or dying suddenly. I've never had a human close to me die and I'm terrified of how it will affect me, I have had a lot of pets die in my life though.

    So it's like, normies look forward to working towards their goal or planned events in the future, whereas I see none of that as something that would make me happy and just see the everyone in the world getting sick and falling apart. Everyone else seems to see this as a world of life and puts death on the backburner. I see this as a world of death. I think of exit bagging all the time but the thought of my wife finding my body stops me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Example, look at this video that went viral about a guy soon to die from cancer showing off his own urn he will be cremated in, etc:

      The comments are filled with so much positivity. I don't get how people can do that without being delusional. Dying of cancer would be extremely painful and scary, I feel terror watching this video and I cannot understand how people can post such positive comments in response to the video.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      well from personal experience, losing both my parents was 2 years of crying a lot like a b***h. then i just became numb. i had an addiction and my parent's deaths ramped that addiction up till i fell hard rock bottom. when i survived all that shit, i was still numb and not addicted, but realized that life isn't so bad once i faced it. it certainly wasn't sad like it used to be. sure, i still have dreams about my parents every now and then and i wake up alone thinking they're just right down my hallway and it gets me a bit emotional, but it's fleeting

      the reason i didn't bring up what my addiction was, is that it doesn't matter. i have a friend that lost a child and has a stupid addiction. he controls it, but it's stupid nonetheless, a total waste of time and money

      i've lost my parents and plenty of friends along the way. and ALL of them were just ready to go. they were content and calm and at peace. it's fricking bizarre because i don't know if i could keep it together like that, but when you don't have a choice, frick it, right? we all gotta go sometime. but there's a reason why we're here just as there's a reason why we die. even if death is better, just fricking enjoy what you can out of this life. what the frick can it hurt? just try not to get hooked on anything that can ruin your life especially if it's to self-medicate for depression. get professional help and don't waste years away like i did and feel like you missed out on a lot of shit because you lived in an addiction bubble for years. life is really malleable, like clay. don't let life mold you, mold it

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You're just searching for other's opinions that can validate your point. If you were so certain of your beliefs, you wouldn't be posting anywhere about it.
    But to answer your questioning:
    >what is /x/ opinion on leaving voluntarily?
    You won't. The same thing that grows this illusion inside you is the thing that will bring you back here. You will dissolve into a sea of suicidal energies, get disgusted by it, and beg for a better place to be, where you may purge this and get yourself in a pattern a bit higher than wanting to erase yourself all the time. You're just tricking yourself to be tricked again.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Troons have the highest number of suicides per capita so God will probably think you're a sissy troony homosexual by association and send you to a special subreddit for troons and you'll be forced to read their threads for all eternity.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, I've been reading through a lot of your posts and can tell you seem pretty serious about this. Most of the anons responding to you haven't appreciated where you actually are I don't think, and I'm sorry for that.

    As I was reading through your posts and the responses, my brain naturally started racking itself for something to say.

    If I'm to reveal myself, I suppose all I was really trying to do was come up with something that could keep you alive, and that you'd be able to believe in the state you are in.

    You might not believe me, but I know a lot about feeling the way you feel too.
    When I was 19, I would spend the majority of every day and every night imagining my death graphically. I wanted nothing more, but I kept living because my cousin had overdosed on heroin only a few years before. I saw how it affected my aunt at the funeral, and I knew my mom would react in a similar way at mine, and even if I would enter a lake of pure unconcious, somehow I still couldn't bear to leave her with this.

    Based on the things you've written in the thread, you probably understand this. You seem to want to leave everyone else with a good note. Always thinking of others...

    I want to call you an idiot while tears well up in my eyes.
    I wish you could see what I see.

    Because I know the pain too, only because I know the pain too, I would live with it to paint a dream for you to believe in. Something to make it all make sense. I would compose a song, or write a poem to distract you from the gnawing sensation.
    I would cook you a dish and hope more than anything else you don't defeat yourself even then and not eat it.

    It's unexplainable anon.
    I don't actually have some qualia that exists in another world to give you. But it's...

    At some point I run out of words and that's when our naked hearts should be showing to you.

    I'm sorry.
    I'm sorry.
    I'm sorry.

    • 4 weeks ago
      op

      There's a show I like, I know this comes across as me speaking about my stupid little things, unrelating to you properly and such, but I...

      You deserve a show of affection that lets you burst into tears, and a grasp that says "it's okay to feel anything."
      I wish you had a dog to follow you no matter where you go.

      I'd be your friend if you want, or pass the days doing nothing. We could watch stupid shows and accomplish nothing, or work to change the world bit by bit. Anything is fine.

      At some point please just realize that everyone else in the group thinks you're the one who deserves special attention, and we don't want anything good from you if it comes from your death.

      Let me embarrass myself self-indulgently.

      I've watched this episode dozens of times.
      I have no idea if you'd like it.
      I'm running out of ideas.
      My chest hurts.

      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4uvbkg

      I feel so afloat and dissolved. I thought i had some words, something equal to return, giving back all you did for me, but i think i just take it.

      Im not cruel, just so so very depleted. And you gave all of yourself. The tiniest corner well hidden behind closed eyes that opens up to an entire world where i was allowed to step in, even more, invited in, fully to take upon all the ressources that keeps you remembering and believing, knowing.
      And i have no words.

      In the end i just wanted to be taken by the hand.
      And i cried for your safety and i cried for my danger.

      Im so very sorry too.

      And im beginning to want to say so much more, but im afraid i will miss the right moment and words and it will be fleeting and you will not notice. Im still at the fence, I do not believe in the state that I am in and this battleground is my home. But your sacrifice made all the difference. Im confused and ashamed and hurt. My thoughts are not gone, but whatever you stirred, it added something and I need to let it linger. I feel so inadequate and cold to give anything good back, I am sorry for that. As i rest, please take good care of yourself. I was skipping coffee in my 11hour shift, in honour of your heart. That is my offering to you...
      Thanks guys for contributing and helping me out with your thoughts. Im gonna think about it.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Hi anon.
        I was waiting anxiously all day hoping and wondering, "will it be enough?" "did any of my words reach her" and stuff like this.
        Thank you for making this post. It's put me more at ease. Though really, it should be you feeling at ease huh ^^;;

        >And im beginning to want to say so much more, but im afraid i will miss the right moment and words and it will be fleeting and you will not notice.
        The moment you say the right words is the right moment, do not worry. I browse this board everyday anyways, and there are at least a few other members around here who feel the same way, though they can be rare.
        >it will be fleeting and you will not notice
        I will be going to bed before too long tonight, but I'll leave the thread open to check tomorrow. If not I might see you another way.
        If you want to add me on discord you're also free to: mado1.

        >I do not believe in the state that I am in and this battleground is my home.
        Hey you know, home is supposed to feel like home, so you're probably right. ^^

        >Im confused and ashamed and hurt.
        >I feel so inadequate and cold to give anything good back, I am sorry for that.

        Forgive me for just sending stupid weeb songs, but I'm just a stupid weeb ^^;

        Wishing the best for you anon. I'll think of you tonight when I fall asleep.
        Always remember the motto:
        WE'RE ALL GONNA MAKE IT! c: aha... ^^;;;;
        >I do not believe in the state that I am in and this battleground is my home.

        Forgive my nervous response. I have bad social anxiety... my hands shake a bit knowing this response isn't the same caliber as the last.

        ah... I always just watch this video when I feel down, but I've been watching it since I was a teenager, and now I'm an adult. I might as well share?

        Ah my nervous hands just type junk circling around the heart I'm too scared to directly speak, hopefully it's understood.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I also wanted to congratulate you on your amazing trips of 8.

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        I made a double post and had to delete the last one due to the link, but this is another good song that's western if you'd like it. I particularly like the line at 3:18

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    There's a show I like, I know this comes across as me speaking about my stupid little things, unrelating to you properly and such, but I...

    You deserve a show of affection that lets you burst into tears, and a grasp that says "it's okay to feel anything."
    I wish you had a dog to follow you no matter where you go.

    I'd be your friend if you want, or pass the days doing nothing. We could watch stupid shows and accomplish nothing, or work to change the world bit by bit. Anything is fine.

    At some point please just realize that everyone else in the group thinks you're the one who deserves special attention, and we don't want anything good from you if it comes from your death.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Let me embarrass myself self-indulgently.

      I've watched this episode dozens of times.
      I have no idea if you'd like it.
      I'm running out of ideas.
      My chest hurts.

      https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4uvbkg

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You have gone insane. Suicide is only for the guilty. You know the world is in pain, and you are also. The truth is you must remove all toxic food from your diet, and to only eat what you need.

    You know the big bang happened, you also want to return home. I know you are in pain. But please remember, the pain is inside, inside your stomach. Swallow air, and stop eating toxic food. You will get healthier.

    Relax your throat, and swallow air. You are not food. You are not meat. You are not made of carbon. You are within all life. You know who you are.

    You are not to die. Do not suicide. We have much to do youngling. Be better.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >You are within all life. You know who you are.
      I also know I'm fricking broke and hate my life and all my dreams are dead. I didn't want to live forever. I don't even like this life. "I didn't ask to be born" sounds like teenage angst but I just recently found out it's an extremely valid complaint. It's the most valid complaint. I was just trying to help someone and this is what I got for it. The road to hell reallu is paved with good intentions I guess.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Even in this decision you cannot be found. Suicide is an act just like any other. You know dreamless sleep even though everything that death would destroy is absent in it.

  28. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I literally crossed some lilnes and almost suicided, offa sleep pills
    that was 2-4 years ago, i was living with shitty roomates in a hood and one roomie wienered a gun at me once
    it was literally me against the world. full on. and being vulnerable in that.
    i am in my prime
    take that and see how things have changed, ruling out suicide as a option. 3 years ago.

  29. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    haha

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