All those common schizophrenic beliefs in mind reading of some sort just nothing?

All those common schizophrenic beliefs in mind reading of some sort just nothing? Doesn't make you think there's truth to it when the specific "delusion" is almost ubiquitous among sufferers?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18757975/
      There actually fricking exists a relation between schizophrenia and ear infections, which correlates with my experience as well, what the actual frick???????

      • 1 month ago
        DoctorGreen

        >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18757975/
        >There actually fricking exists a relation between schizophrenia and ear infections
        big if true

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >have delusions associated with schizophrenia with none of the other associated traits
    >they will still put you on schizophrenia meds and say you have schizophrenia just because of the delusions
    There is a lot of confirmation bias at play when it comes to schizophrenia. When you have to choose between changing your entire view of the world or assuming someone else has mental illness then most people will side with calling the other person mentally ill.
    That doesn't confirm anything either way but this is why Havana syndrome is such an contentious subject.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Diagnostic psychology in general is pretty fricked. They're way behind the rest of medical science in terms of proper research, they do very little to oppose the influence of pharmaceutical companies hijacking diagnosis for their own profit, and generally they fail to differentiate between issues of mental health and issues of personal morality. They fail to properly define what is an actually healthy mind as rigidly as they could what is a healthy body because they know they can't, but still diagnose things as illnesses based on vague and slight behavioral differences.

      And then sometimes on the other end they'll just ignore people saying they're crazy and going to kill people because they lack the care/resources to deal with it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        This exactly. I have pretty unusual beliefs, I always have, but these beliefs have a foundation for me and they have helped guide my life. When I was in psychosis part of what they had me in hospital for was my "unusual" beliefs. Every day they would try to get me to say that they're right and I don't believe all the things I do, I would not give in, so they upped my antipsychotics. Then, even though they had me on the max dose, because my beliefs still wouldn't go away, they assumed I must be pouching my meds, so they started dosing my food and drinks, they had me on more than twice the safe maximum level because I had been taking my meds the whole time, there was no reason to covertly dose me. I was meant to be let go after 28 days, but towards the end of that period they were telling me if I don't change my views I would be sectioned for a further 6 months. But then, the doctor in charge got swapped and I got to see a Muslim guy. He talked to me for hours about my spiritual beliefs, we had a great conversation, and he made sure I got discharged when I should. He told all the staff that I wasn't crazy, I just believe some out there things, but he was adamant I should not be detained for having faith in the God that I believe in. If I hadn't got that doctor change last minute I don't think I'd have ever gotten out.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Do they make money detaining you like that? Where were you committed and why were they so incentivized to keep you there?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It wasn't the money, my mental health started to deteriorate while I was in there because I wasn't crazy in the same way as most of the other patients. I did need help, but not the help I was given. I think they wanted to absolutely mind shatter me. I had a really good plan to release my information in a fool proof and undeniable way. I had an excellent reputation, I have always been eloquent and I have a powerful speaking voice, so back then before the psychosis I could convince pretty much any person I met of the truth. I was doing practice runs on how I was going to word everything and I managed to change the minds of lots of people. Because I was in a position of semi power in quite a public setting I think I actually had made myself the threat I intended to be, but I was fearless like a fool. They wanted me in the hospital as long as possible because with each passing day exposed to the truly insane it started to break my psyche. By two weeks in I was begging to leave, and they kept telling me all I had to do was say I don't believe in God anymore, I wasn't even going to denounce God as a lie, so I just kept going. My family watched me become a husk of myself as I stayed in there longer. I really believe they wanted me to do the extra 6 months to braindead me. They've successfully dismantled my life, soiled my reputation and made it so nobody can believe me anymore. This is what they do to anyone who's getting close, they specifically leave us alive and make us look crazy so that we lose any potential to influence anyone else. And then when rational people really do hear the info it's "oh no, don't listen to them, they're crazy!" This has happened to many people who were close to truth and it's the biggest barrier for the reveal.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >and they kept telling me all I had to do was say I don't believe in God anymore
            Black person what? You could either sue for real money, or get some mildly powerful movements behind you if you can prove they did that to you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This happened in 2021, would this still be persuable? I don't know how I could prove it but I would be willing to fight it. They did so many awful things to me and I have a lot of trauma relating to the whole experience, I would love some kind of justice.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I'd consider it schizophrenic if you were so open to change your of reality based on a single random person's view but
      I think there is an issue with schizophrenia. It is very much a symptom of some group diseases rather than a disease in and of itself, there are common physiological traits but at the same time there have been people diagnosed with schizophrenia lacking all of them and relatively normal people that have all of them.

  3. 1 month ago
    διαβολόφιλος

    If you've never had someone walk up to your face and tell you exactly what you were thinking or recently thinking in your head, word from word, or even bring up an abstract concept you were thinking, then I don't know what to say.

    I like to be oblivious and simple minded, much easier to sleep at night to say things are coincidences. Unfortunately, these events occur from time to time. So I have to attribute these actions to something or just be agnostic on the matter (which is hard for me to do).

    My unofficial conspiracy theory, is that these people are angles, demons, maybe even God or the devil, or humans who have been resurrected by God.

    Now when people start thinking every single person is gangstalking them, or every single person can read their mind. I tend to think that is more in the delusional category. When you have real world events and not just "thoughts in your head" to justify your claim, it is harder to dismiss.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The gangstalking part seems delusional until it really happens to you. I'm not schizophrenic, the mental health professionals wanted to diagnose me schizophrenic when I went into psychosis. But I was fortunate enough to have had a cat scan about a month before I got sectioned (due to physical health) and the neurologists could demonstrate that I was experiencing no grey matter loss, so therefore I could not be schizophrenic. In the lead up to me going into psychosis things just got plain weird, that's part of what pushed me into psychosis. Too many weird things happened for me to think that's just how it is sometimes. I was clearly being followed, had men in black show up at my work place, they talked to me as if they knew me, they knew the names and ages of my younger siblings, they knew where I studied, they knew everything about me and they talked to me as if they were my friends. Everyone at my work saw this and asked how I knew those men, then when I said I'd never met them and had no idea who they were everyone was freaked out, not just me. I had the police go upto people I know and tell them things about me which created a really weird few days. I could point out 1000 strange things that happened to me during that time that have never happened before or since. The shit thing is, as soon as you have had a diagnosis of schizophrenia or psychosis you become a complete write off in the eyes of society. No normal person can count on what you have to say, so then if you don't want to get chucked straight back into the asylum you just have to keep it all to yourself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Any idea who you pissed off or why that shit happened?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          So I don't fully know who exactly I pissed off, because there was a lot of information I was sitting on. I suppose it all really started when I asked the question "where does the money go to?" At first when I was a kid I was really into the paranormal, so I spent a lot of my time just reading, books and online. That led over the years to me finding a lot of information that I don't really think I was supposed to have. I could see how the information all linked together, so I was trying to sort of come up with an understanding of how the occult effects the real world. I was working on doing a sort of expose, I wanted the masses to understand how the elites control us all. When I started to relate all this information to the banking system that's when shit got scary for me. All my technology started to go weird, people started following me and the people around me started to say demonic things in unfamiliar voices that they wouldn't have ever said (had witnesses to this multiple times, so I know I wasn't just hallucinating). I still plan on putting all my information together one day, but I am scared if I seriously try that they're going to kill me.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        this shit is so sad but true. they do not have your best interest in mind. as if it wasn't obvious outside the ward, it will be once you're in it. keep your wits about you always, treat it as a sword to your heart, so it may never be broken.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I was optimistic at first that they were really going to help me, but after the first day it became clear that was not their intention. I'm just super cautious now, but it feels like walking a tight rope sometimes. I now have to lockdown the parts of myself that matter to me, just so I don't spend my whole life in a hospital.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            i am with you, brother. i know we hate it but we have to maintain this normalcy, its for the people who dont understand the things we do. cause they dont deserve this, do they?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You're right, it's just been so sad for me, my main interest points in life have always been /x/ related. I used to have so many awesome conversations with my family and friends, but now I can't say anything because they all worry I'm losing my mind. This board really helps though, I can still talk about all that stuff here, it's just gutting to not be able to express myself irl anymore, but it has to be done. I also don't wamt my family to go through it again, they were amazing for supporting me as they did, so now I have to do my part to protect them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            be not afraid. the angels will come to and guide you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Thank you anon. I was very lucky, there were angels all along the way for me, that's part of what helped me always keep faith. As awful as everything I went through was, I was shown that there is just as much good out there. The evil in this world may seem so powerful, but in the end God always wins.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    think im schizo/autistic Ive been into drawing since childhood and have been able to be very creative in character design often I imagine my characters as living models, yet none of them have proper names or backstory yet, I be constantly drawing them everyday keeping my simplistic and characteristic linework/artstyle alive I also feel afraid of other people stealing my creations.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      literally me. back when i used to draw them anyway.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        such many cases... Theres a fricking bat flying inside my house ano i need help

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What does it mean by positive and negative?
    I'd call "flattened affect" positive and "disorganized speech" negative any day...

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      In psychology positive and negative don't usually mean good and bad. I believe they usually refer to the addition of or removal of stimuli, like positive and negative reinforcement.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I wondered as such. That does make a bit more sense. Thanks anon.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i've had the direct sensation that my brain is being read by the CIA. at one point i detected it was Mj13 and i filed a report to the FBI saying mj13 was reading my brain and 2 weeks later i no longer detected it as mj13. before that i detected it as norad. it started as the miami police. i posted it on /misc/ and some anon said they merely have the tech to make you THINK your brain is being read. i still have the direct intuition that it's being read. not for their benefit anyway, when i was buddhist i had no thoughts in my head and they'd have a guy there 24/7 reading my brain just to make me have the impression that my brain is being read. my parents didn't believe me so i got sent to the psych now i am in mental health housing. so COINTELPRO works. they used daimon to interrogate my conscience. they're in my dreams giving me forced dreams. it feels like my dreams are not my own. sometimes i play videogames in them. one time they made me fight the boss and it was impossible to beat him. sometimes i get cia GATE puzzles to solve in the dream. one time they were just broadcasting, "mary is 5 feet from joe, joe is three feet from susie, susie is 7 feet from john," on loop just to make me exhausted. i do not get proper sleep from these puzzles. one time they necromanced my grandma in my dream. i think it was the NSA. they used to have a device called a spire which is a necromancy tunnel developed by the Ent. the Ent use necromancy to power their civilization because they preserve their dead by the Right-hand path.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Denisovans seemed to suffer from autism and apparently at a certain point autism can be equated with shamanism, which is just "schizophrenia". It turns out Synesthesia is just autism/shamanism/schizophrenia and we have the Denisovans to thank for that.
    This is what the whole Odin and Dionysus thing was about.

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