Alcohol

What are the effects that drinking booze bring spiritually? Never thought about it before.

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Everywhere I read on the topic, they say don't drink as it nulls your spiritual abilities. I have been searching for a excuse to drink and be spiritual but seems that they don't go hand in hand.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It can do both however what you said is exponentially more commonplace

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yeah no shit. if you took a fricking minute to read about alcohol, and wtf it is chemically, you would quickly learn that it's just poison.
      people feel hung over after drinking because your body is recovering from being poisoned.
      how the frick are you gonna find any spirituality in something as dumb as alcohol?
      fix your shit and stop listening to other booze bags

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Absinthe and poets, whiskey fueling great writers, any bullshit like that. Spirits and spirituality just might work, but not as ingested. Not in the way it fun at least. I'm just a recovering alcoholic so I'd happily fall of the wagon again if I could mix my newfound spirituality with self destructive drinking.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          and me serving fiends in the trenches made me a good rapper that dont mean it wasnt unhealthy homie

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Drinking for a long time blocks your rem sleep so much that your body begins to force your rem thoughts out while you are awake. This is makes you hallucinate during the day and causes delirium

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      false
      t. alcoholic drinking for over a year straight every day

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        A long time anon, like years. Ever meet people that drink a long time? They don't dream

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          That b.s. i drink a lot or at least i used to and i have dreams obe lucid etc.. darth vader was in my dream other day. & when i say i drank a lot i mean i am a fish

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Keep it up for enough years and you won't even dream for over a year after you quit.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          One of my grandparents said they don't dream anymore and they used to be a daily drinker. Never blackout drunk or out of control, but at least 2 a day.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >They don't dream
          This.
          I had it happen to me even. I drank a ton for a few years to deal with a shitty existence and I experienced somewhat of a spiritual death, I rarely dreamed for a few years and it effected me greatly. I felt like I died inside. It wasn't until I improved my situation which lead to a much less stressful life, and cut back heavily on my drinking did my dreams return.
          I'll still have a drink every now and then, but not nightly anymore. Maybe once a week at most, and not nearly to the quantities I use to. Really, drinking at all is bad and should be avoided.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a year straight
        you're just getting started dude, quit while you can

        t. drank daily for 6 years. I now have a seizure disorder, ketoacidosis and daily cravings to drink. clean 5 months. frick this.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          How hard were you drinking daily?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            my worst? a liter of vodka per day, sometimes more. I did not experience classic delirium tremens but I got close.. first time I tried to cold turkey quit, I heard voices and saw plants growing up from my floor.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          thanks for reminding me, while i've quit liquor i need to push my social helpers to get me into rehab for klonopin (which i dont even take for anxiety anymore, mainly so i dont feel stressed or "out of it" like benzo wd's can do)

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            essentially just taking this crap to prevent seizures which i've had ~6 of when i was heavily addicted to xanax, i dont take ridiculous 5mg+ doses like i used to but its been too long ive gone without popping at least 1-3mg a day

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice theory but wait until you're old enough to drink before you have any more ideas.

        t. alcoholic

        >Drinking for a long time blocks your rem sleep so much that your body begins to force your rem thoughts out while you are awake. This is makes you hallucinate during the day and causes delirium

        absolute nonsense

        I love how confidently morons like yourself spew their dumb taked

        >Nice theory but wait until you're old enough to drink before you have any more ideas.

        Lmao all these anons tear

        Drinking for a long time blocks your rem sleep so much that your body begins to force your rem thoughts out while you are awake. This is makes you hallucinate during the day and causes delirium

        a new butthole

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Nice theory but wait until you're old enough to drink before you have any more ideas.

      t. alcoholic

    • 2 months ago
      Dave

      >Drinking for a long time blocks your rem sleep so much that your body begins to force your rem thoughts out while you are awake. This is makes you hallucinate during the day and causes delirium

      absolute nonsense

      I love how confidently morons like yourself spew their dumb taked

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >taked

        The government wants you to drink. It keeps you stupid like this guy. Being sober is being stronger. good luck with your alcoholism bro

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    So either don't drink at all, or be drunk 24/7?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >So either don't drink at all, or be drunk 24/7?
      Dont drjnk EVER

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    choose mushrooms

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >choose mushrooms

      mushrooms don't really work for everyday use. choose kava.

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tool for lowering inhibitions and psychic barriers. Use at your own risk.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes. it reveals the nature of man at levels that induce drunkenness. it's arguably one of the most important substances in the spiritual realm.

      if someone doesn't behave any differently, then you've found a true solid soul.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymqus

      I have really high inhibitions though, honestly it can be a problem in itself

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      555.
      Hellfire club
      Triple agent
      Wrote the constitution in grammar fraud that only the few attorneys understood and is why he said quip. Conjectured pic related…..

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        21.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          what does it mean?

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it reveals the spirit of the weak

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Here's a video on the spiritual implications of Alcohol:

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very good vid anon whered you find it?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Very good vid anon whered you find it?

      >Very good vid anon
      Are you samegayging? These videos are all terrible.
      >whered you find it?
      Are you moronic? Do you not understand how YouTube works?? Click on the channel to finds lots and lots of shitty videos by gays that love to stick their own heads up eachothers asses.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I find alcohol can be beneficial it can enhance meditation but has its drawbacks especially if you drink too much. Try sipping its called spirits for a reason

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      yes because it evaporates.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        No it doesnt

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It is ego juice, it makes the ego go into stupid banter mode, then seething the next 7 days. Turns you into an butthole.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It is ego juice, it makes the ego go into stupid banter mode, then seething the next 7 days. Turns you into an butthole.
      How does one seethe for 7 days?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Forgot to fix the post link. Here it goes:

        It is ego juice, it makes the ego go into stupid banter mode, then seething the next 7 days. Turns you into an butthole.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >It is ego juice, it makes the ego go into stupid banter mode, then seething the next 7 days. Turns you into an butthole.
      Can confirm that alcohol turns regular people into pricks.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I feel I can give a balanced opinion on this as a somewhat spiritually minded person who also happens to be a prolific drinker, from time to time. Alcohol has its uses as a social lubricant and intoxicant. I think there even is some spiritual/entheogenic value to be taken from it as well, for the right person at the right time. Some of my most transcendental experiences have occured in the midst of epic alcohol binges. Do I think this is a good or valid route to such experiences? No, definitely not, and I would absolutely never advise someone to use alcohol to that end. Alcohol is unpredictable and inconsistent, and potentially wildly destructive. It must be some kind of cosmic joke that one of the easiest drugs to produce and the most societally prevalent also happens to be the most insidiously destructive to humanity. If you're looking to take substances for spiritual reasons alcohol should be your last choice, as there are 1000s of entheogens that cause practically no physiological damage, while the list of risks that come with alcohol use are practically endless.

    To name a few of the physical detriments, liver damage is among the best known, but there is also damage to the eyes, degradation of the muscles (which includes the heart), cancers of all sorts (mouth, esophageal, stomach, liver, intestine, you name it) as well as neurological damage and increased risk factor for alzheimers and dementia later on in life. Make no mistake, alcohol is literally poison, and can often be spiritual poison also. The monetary cost and health issues alone can cause economic and emotional strife for alcohol abusers and their families alike, but also look at how habitual alcohol users effect themselves and those around them in its role in causing people to shirk responsibility for their lives and community, the breakdown of relationships, its role in much domestic abuse, the fact a large proportion of murders occur while one or both parties are under the influence. Cont.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I don't see how the net karmic effect of alcohol use could be anything but negative. Alcohol often seems to put people into a lower, more primal state of being, a lower "vibration" if you will. I've often experienced it myself and seen it in others, that alcohol can have the effect of making one emotionally stunted, quick to extreme emotion, which is too frequently to become irrationally upset, or explosively irate in the worst of cases. And I say all this as, like I mentioned at the start of my last post, a prolific drinker myself. Just in this month I've drank multiple gallons worth of vodka. Despite all that I've said so far there's something I love about alcohol, I can go months at time time without it but there's nothing like going on a serious binge while listening to your favorite music. I consider it a necessary evil also, being so entrenched in society and so easy to produce that it can occur naturally without human intervention. Attempts to prohibit its use often fall famously flat, the best known example being American prohibition during the early 20th century.

      I guess what I'm trying to say is, alcohol has been an ingrained part of the human experience for millenia, present in myth and stories reaching back as far as we remember. For better or worse its a part of the human story. Perhaps no one in 1000s of years has gone unaffected by it at least indirectly. Cont. One more post left, didn't really mean for this to turn into an effort post but i had more to say than i realized

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Alcohol is almost like a perfect destroyer of mankind, not only can its effects be devastating, physically, mentally, socially; it's also very habit forming, seductive even; you can get to the point where you will literally die without it. Its easy to see why many religions advise against, or outright forbid the consumption of alcohol. Any faith that would guide people away from temptation to do evil, away from destruction of themselves and the bonds that tie them to others, should guide them away from alcohol. Though in the moment of drunkenness, the times when the liquor does not bring you to anger or woe but instead you feel a rush, a surge of joy, a moment of impetuous perfection, those are the moment's that tie an alcoholic to the bottle even long after the joy in it has died, like a dopefiend.

        For a little something extra to think about, look up the wikipedia page for Noah S. Sweat, and read about his "whiskey speech". He was ridiculed for it at the time but to me it's a very good representation of this dual nature of the alcohol debate, how it brings joy and sorrow, how it brings people together and yet drives them apart. And thats all I can think to say.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        This metalbro has written occult lyrics and music but seems to have become an alcoholic lately (lockdowns?). All-in, like the little capricorn he is, you can't find a pic where he is not on stage without a beverage in his hands. The recent pics look like he lost all his occult glow. I like their occult work and am saddened.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The God of Darkness uses it.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Who is "the God of Darkness?"

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it makes you gay and stupid everytime. frick alcohol drinking gays

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It alters your consciousness so of course it will have effects spiritually

    I'm curious the difference between something like vodka compared to gin or Jager

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In my experience the simpler the nature of the alcohol the more consistent the effects, and the more botanical it is in nature( mainly gin and wines) the more emotionally intense the intoxication and hangover are.
      So normal vodka and whiskey(normal as in not flavored with weird shit) if used by themselves can get you a pretty measured level of intoxication and help gradually peel the layers of a personality to the more base aspects without necessarily enhancing any specific emotion you weren't already feeling.

      Wine, Gin and Rum will usually amplify emotions in either a joyful or depressive way(the hangovers are always depressing) on top of stripping down the personality

      Beer is weak enough that you'll usually just get a mild buzz and loss of cognitive faculties before the physiological effects make you sleepy or sick. Not much interesting really happens there unless you build up a tolerance and drink in extreme excess.

      Fancier liquers and mixed drinks(Jaeger, Limencello, Almaretto, Rum and Coke, Fernet Branca) all just kinda get a quick buzz and will usually make you sick before anything more interesting happens.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      In my experience the simpler the nature of the alcohol the more consistent the effects, and the more botanical it is in nature( mainly gin and wines) the more emotionally intense the intoxication and hangover are.
      So normal vodka and whiskey(normal as in not flavored with weird shit) if used by themselves can get you a pretty measured level of intoxication and help gradually peel the layers of a personality to the more base aspects without necessarily enhancing any specific emotion you weren't already feeling.

      Wine, Gin and Rum will usually amplify emotions in either a joyful or depressive way(the hangovers are always depressing) on top of stripping down the personality

      Beer is weak enough that you'll usually just get a mild buzz and loss of cognitive faculties before the physiological effects make you sleepy or sick. Not much interesting really happens there unless you build up a tolerance and drink in extreme excess.

      Fancier liquers and mixed drinks(Jaeger, Limencello, Almaretto, Rum and Coke, Fernet Branca) all just kinda get a quick buzz and will usually make you sick before anything more interesting happens.

      That's a misconception people use..."I always get sad when I drink vodka but when I drink whiskey I'm a party girl." Alcohol is alcohol no matter if it's spirits or wine or beer.

      All that affects it is the amount of alcohol, the time limit you drink it in, what you've eaten that day, and your mental state when you drink.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You obviously haven't gotten drunk on different types of alcohol. They're all made from different substrates (grapes, barley, corn, potatoes, etc.) and hence have different effects. Wine drunk, even on huge amounts of wine, gets me much happier than hard liquor of any sort.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          pure placebo.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Different sugar contents would have different effects. So do terpenes.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's all ethyl alcohol moron

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            No, you teatotaler ignoramus. Wine has (naturally occurring) sulfites, tannins, and countless other compounds that influence the taste, aroma, and effect it has on our systems. In fact, most wine from America is shitty because they add too much sulfite to keep the wine steady in flavor, and to keep it from developing in further fermentation. Sulfites are what you give you shitty wine hangovers, compared to say tequila which has practically no sulfites.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            When I drink certain dark liquors, my propensity for violence increases. This doesn't happen with other alcoholic drinks.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's not a misconception, it's dismissed by people analyzing the physiological before and after without properly studying the process of metabolizing it. The concentration of alcohol in the liquor affects the rate and way it disseminates through your body, and the rate at which your liver process it, this has noticable effects on the experience. And things like wine have additional effects from things beside the alcohol itself.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        You seem sciencey so I decided to try and be more scientific and less anecdotal about this:

        Most of the articles you'll find supporting your claim don't have studies supporting them, they just 'logic' their way to the conclusion by saying that they all have the same active ingredient therefore the effects are the same. This ignores the physiological effects of the non-alcoholic ingredients which plenty of studies(especially on wine) can show you definitely have effects, as well as the effects different concentrations or alcohol have versus just quantities.

        The ones that I've found using studies to support it are mostly misusing the same couple studies on longterm health effects like oiver damage. I say misusing because YES the liver damage will be mostly the same over time regardless of the type of liquor, however that proves nothing about the short term effects of different liquors on the mental state during a binge.

        Almost anyone who themselves drinks, regardless of their pre-concieved notions of the different types of liquor(which different groups have pretty different opinions about different types) will talk on there being differences in the effects based on the spirit. While you COULD dismiss every statement on the emotional states caused as being confirmation bias or placebo effect, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the intellectually honest approach.

        If you're willing to pick up a moderate drinking habit to test this(really don't reccomend it at all) you can pretty easily. You'll notice after even just a month that your body develops different levels of tolerance to different liquors based on the frequency with which you drink them, which also shows a difference in the physiological effects.

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's just another sin (aka personal disappointment) in my book. Like meth, crack, and any other abuser, it will really show you a good time before it brings in the hell.

    It's like throwing water in a fancy electronic machine, IMO. It really let spirits into my life. Creative spirits, yes, sometimes, but oh LORD did it lead to demon channelling. I've been so lucky to not lose my temper more than I have when under the influence or recovering. Hard to fight demons when I start thinking the same way demons do. I became both permanent victim and oppressor of both myself and others. I couldn't use my gifts to help others who were hurting and didn't have the power I had. I couldn't be people's savior. At best I was stuck in a cycle of decay and denial. Alcohol had spirits holding me over the edge, and they showed me how much I could actually lose if I didn't empower myself and others with what I had.

    I'd like to emphasize that it's like any other sin, which is usually a hole in jump into and have to scrape and scramble to get out of. Like any intelligent abuser, it has been so amazing to me, which makes it all the creepier when I REMEMBER the horrors it brought into my life and others. What has helped me from jumping back into the cycle of various sins is the concept of privileged sacrifice. See, sometimes when I have the most power, it's when I think I don't have much power at all. Not everyone can sacrifice the things I can sacrifice. With the time and money I could spend on even the smallest gas-station drinking session, I could spend that time and money as an angel for someone. I want to keep sacrificing the hell and the pleasure of alcohol so I can bring a little mercy to someone who really could use it (I ain't talking about donating to scammers). A little grace can work wonders for myself and others. I remember those times, and they empower me. The cruel self-critic has nothing to say about my selfless gestures. I CAN sacrifice alcohol.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    imo it doesnt do much outside of what every substance does - allows you to let go of your inhibitions and do things without feeling silly or doubting that they will work. its really only good for if you dont like weed / its banned where you are, because weed does the same thing and you can hallucinate on it whereas youre more likely to just shit yourself with booze. its up to personal preference though, weed kinda tastes like shit

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alcohol use weakens the nervous system and destroys white matter in the brain. Literally doesn't help spirituality ever.

    Check 'em

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    alcohol is used in shamanism and mediumship all over the planet.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      and all booze bags are shamans. stfu please
      anyone I've ever known whos into alcohol is a moronic douchebag

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    same as anti-depressants and ssri's they keep you on a low plane separated from God

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally poison

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Divine manic states of frenzy.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What are the effects that drinking booze bring spiritually? Never thought about it before.
    Negative beings take you over and make you go loco

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Qigong masters say it dilutes your Qi / life force. Another culture that noticed that it nullifies your spiritual abilities.

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It dampens your awakened / non-normie awareness temporarily which is important to keeping your sanity. Without alcohol I would have killed myself long ago

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    お酒は本心を表す

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Bob Wilton: So what do you use to remote view?
    Lyn Cassady: I drink. And I find classic rock helps.
    Bob Wilton: Any music in particular?
    Lyn Cassady: Boston. Boston usually works.

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    one glass of alcohol and you will be a slave to the devil for a month

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like I should listen to Stevie Wonder's Superstition.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      this but amphetamine sulphate, you become half demon half angel and it's up to you to control which one possesses your body

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Alcohol is a spiritual solvent. You are blending with whatever you're exposing yourself to at a greater intensity than normal if you are drunk. Be mindful of what you're exposing your mind and aura too while you're drunk because you will integrate it much more easily whether or not you consciously intend to.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    it tunes you out spiritually

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The world was made for brew.

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I have no idea what you said but you make a good point.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Apparently its bad.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It tunnels you deeper into your organs and sends you back to the essence temporarily, which can teach you something but I'm not sure if it's something you should want to learn.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Ive stopped drinking. I dont feel much better yet : /

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      try quitting goyslop too and eat only whole foods

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Just drink beer or wine slowly like the ancient greeks. If you stay in the sweet spot, it is great. Almost no americans do this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      I have a theory that maintaining the sweet spot of mild inebriation seems much harder for modern Americans because of all the frickshit they put in our diet combined with overeating making our metabolism constantly unstable, which makes our alcohol tolerance and therefore our reaction to it in a constant state of flux.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A little wine eveey now and again is good.

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