Alchemy

Why are there so much astrologers, magicians, energy workers, people that do various religious practices, but noone knows nothing and talks nothing about Alchemy?

While mostly fogotten, it's probably the deepest and the most comprehensivespiritual science that ever existed.

Here's an essay on the Alchemy explained in a way you probably never heard before:

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I think the debate over whether or not, or to what degree, it is metaphorical has hurt it's popularity in recent years.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's also due to it being very hard to get into

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Because the Alchemists can actually engage in spiritual growth and don't need sites like this lmao.

        https://i.imgur.com/Ju0QrD9.png

        Nice, finally a thread where I can contribute something. Thanks to the video-game Dark Souls I got into the alchemy over 3 years ago and about a year ago I started acquiring data about the topic. I acknowledge only the basic four elements, spirit/metal is just a metaphor for the concept of dominance in my opinion and is a combination of all elements. Even salt, which represents femininity/submissivity is chemically part metal. Sodium in salt stills represent the basic need for positive physical emotion and chloride, the only non-metal chemical on the spectrum, represents I think self-pity, the only truly submissive mindset we are capable of mentally. Anyway, here's everything I know visualized. Posting also 2 more pics, where I explain more difficult concepts.

        https://i.imgur.com/YCEfILV.png

        Something I understood... trying to engage in alchemy is that you can create a lot of sophisticated "models" explaining alchemical symbols and processes, saying "well this is a metaphor for this, that is analogy for that... etc etc" but DO NOT reduce alchemy, its symbols and its processes to the model itself. Those metaphors and analogy are keys, they may be right if you are smart spiritually and mentally, but still, they are not alchemy. Alchemy cannot be explained, alchemy has to be lived. So try to understand those old obscure texts as what they are and for what they say, without stressing too much on "translating" (altough it can be useful at the beginning)
        "Lege, lege lege, ora, relege et labora".

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I think it's mostly this.
      People aren't interested in arguing whether "real alchemy" is physical or spiritual, but that's unfortunately what every alchemy thread on /x/ inevitably devolves into.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why not both? It actually IS both.

        Also, people tend to view it as strictly connected to chemistry. But nowdays, you can do alchemy with programming, or carpentry... underlying principles are the same.

        The main thing with alchemy is that it believes that it's possible to operate mathematically without any concrete quantity, there's a perfectly reasonable and deep (much deeper actually) mathesis that rests on qualitative notions (look at numerology for example, the alchemical tool, that reveals the quality of the number).

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          See, you're already arguing a point you may or may not have any actual tangible knowledge about...funny that.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because the Alchemists can actually engage in spiritual growth and don't need sites like this lmao.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ahahahahaha fair enough. It actually makes sense

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://mega.nz/file/M20mGIhI#WGZWVCpEXo9Fx9W_gsG5Tw6yxtzJnV7M2WSrPeFBECw

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      thanks, nice info in one place.

      Because Alchemy reconciles every opposing religion, spiritual path, and struggle of human nature. (that's an exaggetation but you get the idea) It wouldn't serve the interests of the powers that be for this knowledge to be known, because if it remains hidden they can still use us as pawns.

      Yeah, you're right. I think that Alchemy is not a spiritual tradition, but spiritual math.

      The vast majority of western alchemists were christians, btw

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        The vast majority of westerners were christians.
        Correlation vs causation and all that.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yeah, but the vast majority of hermeticists weren't christian, for example

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        No offense my good friend but when did anyone in this thread mention the word tradition? Alchemy is an art that heavily incoporates math, however math is only the medium through which the art is articulated, math invokes the logical/rational part of the mind however the art goes beyond this. The art is pure knowledge.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no offense taken my friend, I was talking in general.

          I'm not sure if this "art" you are talking about is in essence the highest form of gnosis, or something else inside the art (love, faith... logos itself?) makes it pure, what do you think?

          I'm much more pro-love, in search of the basis of purity of knowledge.

          Look at this for example:

          >Love is not a feeling, it is not pain, it is not an exceptional state, it is not a shrine, it is not exaltation; love is originally the normal state of existence. The basic state of all existence. But it is not the first, but the second creation, that is, the state of redemption, because the work of the second creation is greater than the first, but without the possibility of separation from the second. This is what theology teaches (Bader). Theology is necessary, because in truth and pure reason wants to enjoy. In the mad diffusion of creation, love constantly maintains mutual belonging and unity. Love is in mathematics what infinite integration is in infinite differentiation. Love is what love and motherhood are in the dark and hot animality. Love is the unity of families and peoples and nations. Love creates all levels of being in the unity of reciprocity. Love is the action of being in which creation in a crazy multitude of wealth realizes order and proportion and beauty and truth in such a way that it connects and joins and fuses and balances and permeates. Love is not pathos but normality. Love is what the Indian (except bhakti), Chinese, israeli, Greek heritage do not know about. Love is not ecstasy, but sobriety. For love exists, the soul must unite with its God, and if someone has awakened, retaining his personal being, if he has spent his life in half-sleep, impersonally, so that he may again fall asleep in God and merge with Him.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Many alchemists I have known have implied that the ultimate attainment of the art could be described as "love" however love is a state that can increase or fade away over time at least how it is described in the quote. I would say that the attainment of the art and unconditional love are the same thing, yet such attainment is beyond the scope of mere description. For a vague idea of what I think alchemical enlightement really is just watch the ending of 2001: A Space Odyssey.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That's an interestingtake on the movie.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            https://www.alchemylab.com/alchemical_kubrick.htm#google_vignette
            Many speculate on hidden messages in movies mass media, I do not know if Kurbrick was a practioner of the art, but he was definitely in the know.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This is a nice read, I saved it for later, thanks!

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because Alchemy reconciles every opposing religion, spiritual path, and struggle of human nature. (that's an exaggetation but you get the idea) It wouldn't serve the interests of the powers that be for this knowledge to be known, because if it remains hidden they can still use us as pawns.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Nice, finally a thread where I can contribute something. Thanks to the video-game Dark Souls I got into the alchemy over 3 years ago and about a year ago I started acquiring data about the topic. I acknowledge only the basic four elements, spirit/metal is just a metaphor for the concept of dominance in my opinion and is a combination of all elements. Even salt, which represents femininity/submissivity is chemically part metal. Sodium in salt stills represent the basic need for positive physical emotion and chloride, the only non-metal chemical on the spectrum, represents I think self-pity, the only truly submissive mindset we are capable of mentally. Anyway, here's everything I know visualized. Posting also 2 more pics, where I explain more difficult concepts.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The Star of David in the center and everything it stems from it on the diagram is ok.

      However, let's not forget numbers.

      Furst is One, the God.
      Two is the first duality - male and female (that is, male and female before any notion of sex).
      Three is the pre-material dynamics of intertwined principles that act in the existence, called Sal, Sulphur and Mercury.

      Then there's Four, basic expression of the prima materia, followed by everyting else, as in the diagram.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's a moggy mog world so alchemy is badly mogged through the cables.

    Gold > Mercury > Bismuth > Lead is an interesting lead hehe punny huh

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Other than to other alchemists there isn't really much point discussing alchemy on here as most people just end up fighting over what it is. There are communities online for people to talk about alchemy, those places are a lot more fruitful for conversation and I'm guessing any anons that know the sites I'm talking about don't really want to share those resources here, because then we'd shit up something actually useful. I love alchemy and have done for a very long time, but there's just no point discussing it here. I also think that it isn't the type of knowledge just anyone should have, the more I learn the less I speak and I think that's probably pretty similar for other interested parties.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "I won't reveal the secret to your enemies".

      Would you like to discuss it privately? I'm looking for such resources for quite some time now.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, have you a preferred way to communicate?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Discord?
          >cybergnostic

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'll add you later today, just out and about at the moment

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Cool, speak soon.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            NTA, but be mindful of how you share your social media here. This site is flooded with wannabe hackers specifically from Discord.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Alchemy is like symbolic mental science. People on this site hardly like reading, let alone being told what they believe is superficial. It's intentionally layered so that only the 0.0001% of the most open-minded people on the planet can understand it

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It’s all about the sexual spiritual alchemy of creation.

    Master Rho Chi was a horny old man for a reason.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
  10. 1 month ago
    no, buddy

    The answer is simple. Alchemy is framed in an intentionally recondite and symbolic manner that makes studying it far more difficult than the roots that inspired it or similar methods of understanding.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >noone knows nothing
    Like the fact 'no one' is two words?

    • 1 month ago
      no, buddy

      Here's another fact for you. In linguistics we recognize words as being able to contain spaces. In fact, some words aren't even written at all, instead they are syntactically or semantically implied. A word is a fickle thing.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hard to find good information on this. Here you go.

    ?si=r9wnyhHNbm2dWo3o

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I actually read Nasr's works, I'm very fond of perennialism, but thanks, I didn'tknow about this video.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Perrenielists are the only ones who seem to be able to speak of these matters with authority and intelligence. It is a little bit nerve racking. In the midst of the chaos someone appears to know exactly what is going on.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I don't know much about Perrenialism, personally, but if you practice mental alchemy, understanding kaballah in a non-ritualistic sense, and study the purest most original Hermetic texts-like just the ones applied to Hermes, Thoth, or Trismegistus- and stuff by GRS Mead or Israel Regardie... you'll very easily come into a complete understanding of all of this in like 4 or 5 years tops. Given at least that the one studying these things is already a mindful person. It's first and foremost self-work. Remember that, everybody.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, you can have a complete understanding of the topic in 4-5 years, but - complete only for your current development level.

            In fact, there's no end to that well.

            I'm into spirituality for almost two decades, in same manner as you described - I never liked occultism. If you need a ritual (some people do, and I'm more and more fond of it) it's much better to try some religion. In every religion, there's a hint of surviving tradition of truth, especially where formal priesthood is preserved, along with a monastic life.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I completely agree on all points. Especially the endless well. I'm paraphrasing, but I believe it was James Cameron who said, "If you set your standards unreasonably high, you fail above everyone else."

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Isn't alchemy just transformation of the individual consciousness like most other spiritual paths, the philosopher's stone/transmutation being a metaphor for enlightenment? So people do practice it, just not using the concealing esoteric symbolism which I assume was only necessary because practicing yoga or tantra or qi gong like they'd been doing in the east forever would get you labeled a heretic and probably killed but the idea of creating literal gold from literal lead was too enticing for the powers that be so they left alchemists alone? Or am I totally wrong here and you guys are into doing actual medieval chemistry

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Yeah, you're right on the nail.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Isn't alchemy just transformation of the individual consciousness like most other spiritual paths, the philosopher's stone/transmutation being a metaphor for enlightenment?
      there is nothing metaphorical about it ~ just like there is nothing metaphorical in preparing a meal when you are hungry... and then the hunger goes away

      >using the concealing esoteric symbolism which I assume was only necessary because
      the symbolism did not aim to conceal anything: it was simply the language of the notes the alchemist was taking... since they usually worked alone, each had a personal language about what he was using as ingredients, and what operations were conducted, to what results... the proper term for that is not esoteric but hermetic (in the sense that it's contained in its own little world)

      >practicing yoga or tantra or qi gong like they'd been doing in the east forever would get you labeled a heretic and probably killed but the idea of creating literal gold from literal lead was too enticing for the powers that be so they left alchemists alone?
      you would just be called a fool and the worst thing that could happen is to have people laugh at you, while in the East
      of course if you would go into explanations about what you are doing and why, that's a completely different business... but we are talking about practice, not theory

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          not really relevant as masonic or mystery school symbolism is usually circular (explains symbols with other symbols, all for a purpose other than making good men better... unfortunately)
          there is a difference between hope and illusions

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Read the page, moron.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            why?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It's a perfect summation of what causes the difference between people like you, and people like me.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            so I assume you are the person I initially replied to?
            yet the page doesn't offer any terms of comparison, it only talks about one thing: blobs made up of cultists suffering from Stockholm syndrome

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes, I already understand you didn't read it. Now go read it.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >t. midget

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous
          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            That was my post, you fricking moron

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            big words for a man of such diminutive stature

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    "Spiritual Alchemy" is just overinterpreting the symbolism. The green lion biting the sun really did just mean a green chemical that dissolves gold. Ironically, the actual spiritual dimension is lost on most because of the focus on le schizo esoteric pictures. Just like how Kabbalah just means Tree of Life diagrams to hylics.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Kek good one Neophyte. Let me know when you reach Ipsissimus.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can jack off over ranks in your LARP group; I will go on without proverbially tying my hands behind my back thinking I need to "transmute" my psychology. The spirit is gold already in its divine nature. Alchemy is the study of the limitations of matter as compared to spirit, and to recognize the difference between matter and spirit. To not recognize the difference is to have a spirit akin to lead.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Next time you read a wiki page, please don't post it here as an obnoxious diatribe.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Spirit and Matter are the same thing. They differ only in degrees of condensation

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The green lion biting the sun really did just mean a green chemical that dissolves gold.
      It's a psychopathy test about whether you are willing to eat the "sun" of a saint or a prophet

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You can jack off over ranks in your LARP group; I will go on without proverbially tying my hands behind my back thinking I need to "transmute" my psychology. The spirit is gold already in its divine nature. Alchemy is the study of the limitations of matter as compared to spirit, and to recognize the difference between matter and spirit. To not recognize the difference is to have a spirit akin to lead.

      This is literally the only lucid take in here.

      "As Above, So Below" not "What is Above and Below Are One"

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    what do you think of the Rosicrucian type of alchemy where they say it's the transmutation of the soul from lead into gold? is this just a cop-out from pursuit of the real chemical alchemy? i guess by As Above So Below it stands to reason that the soul would follow the same trajectory of enlightenment as the philosopher's stone does

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I personally know "Rosicrucians" that have told me the philosopher's stone is both a spiritual process and a physical stone, as above so below. Although a legitimate Rosicrucian is a debatable title ever since their dissolution because of Adam Weishaupt.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That is what it is. People who speak of alchemy in "psychological" terms are closer to truth. The material is a denser manifestation of your psychical "Feng shui". As above so below and all that.

        what do you think of the Rosicrucian type of alchemy where they say it's the transmutation of the soul from lead into gold? is this just a cop-out from pursuit of the real chemical alchemy? i guess by As Above So Below it stands to reason that the soul would follow the same trajectory of enlightenment as the philosopher's stone does

        I can tell you what philosopher's stone might be: A well cooked egg or black powder, bullets use led, you use led bullets to take other people's gold, thus turning led into gold.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          lead* fingers getting lazy, my bad.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That is what it is. People who speak of alchemy in "psychological" terms are closer to truth. The material is a denser manifestation of your psychical "Feng shui". As above so below and all that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Rosicrucian type of alchemy

      I think that we, today's people, can't really understand the mindset of those medieval ascetics. I think for them it was not even a question of whether it was spiritual or material.

      Look at it this way - are numbers material or spiritual? They're both, but surpass both. Because ultimately, it's not about the idea of numbers or quantity of material things.

      There's something about oneness, threeness, xness... There's something about five that can be traced to the realm of feelings, but also the realm of ideas, but also of the material world. The key faculty of that way of thinking and conceptualizing is ANALOGY:

      >Analogy means what corresponds. Simple analogy: red corresponds to blood - blood to passion - passion to fight - fight to the knightly caste. So the red color corresponds to power. That is analogy. The analogy is exactly determined by the Tabula Smaragdina, an alchemical treatise that is considered to be the oldest. The definition is as follows: that which is above corresponds to that which is below, that which is below corresponds to that which is above. In the archaic period, a whole series of corresponding relationships were developed, between psychological properties, metals, parts of the body, tones, colors, plants, animals, numbers. European science of the New Age, it is true, does not use analogy, because according to it analogical logic is not concrete, however, it has not been able to remove analogy, and it has an extraordinary role in myth, in dream, in art, in poetry. An element, let's say carbon, analogously appears in botany, chemistry, psychology, everywhere as something that is flammable and develops heat and burns with a flame. Where the alchemist finds fire that burns with a flame, he establishes the existence of carbon. Fire can be of a social nature, say a revolution, it can be organic, then it is a fever, it can be a psychological excitement and it can simply be fire in a smelter.

      • 1 month ago
        no, buddy

        To put this sentiment succinctly I might say that spirituality is a framework for understanding both the physical and the non physical at the same time. It's about everything which is why so often people think it's really about nothing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          The amount of mindsick anons who will reply to any mention of Hermes or Alchemy alone with pages of bitter schizo nonsense while calubg everything you say "psychobabble new age junked hippy bullshit" is astounding. Just a few years ago /x/ and the site itself had a way higher intellectual standard

          • 1 month ago
            no, buddy

            Even the most ignorant among us can put up a front and convince the youngest generation of anything thanks to social media. Kids don't know what to trust and put their faith in people who seem like they understand things or who affirm their own thoughts. It is not only /x/ that has lost intellectual standards.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >/x/ is perma-shit
            You people have always been here. Time is a flat circle.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No, anon. It's a spiral.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's very well put.

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is the best thread in weeks.

    • 1 month ago
      Son of Man

      It’s nice to see anons take an interest in the actual occult
      “ Extracting gold with mercury is a common practice in artisanal and small-scale gold mining. Mercury is mixed with gold-containing materials, forming a mercury-gold amalgam, which is then heated to vaporize the mercury to obtain the gold.3 The amalgam is typically isolated by hand and then heated to distill the mercury and isolate the gold.”

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Mercury is Pluto's best friend, of course.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    According to Paracelsus, alchemy is the practice of (1) transmuting metals to gold (in the mundane physical sense, not at all a system of psychology), and (2) the practice of medicine (ie producing metallic oils). These metallic oils has great power on the soul-consciousness, and also physical body. As the inner, so the outer - transmuting the consciousness.

    Just opening an alchemy book from the 1700's and spending few hours reading should quickly dispel the myth of it being a purely psychological practice.

    Now the problem with transmuting of metals, it that it is apparently quite easy to transmute single atoms into gold, but transmuting moles (10^23) quantities of atoms is very, very, very difficult. So there are many recipes in old alchemical books saying "if you perform this chemical operation, a tiny quantity of gold is produced", meaning that they produced a nano-layer coating of gold, but it is not an economical operation.

  19. 1 month ago
    Son of Man

    I wonder how many anons get my schitzo graph

  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because nobody knows shit about it, not even enough to give an opinion.

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    alchemy is one of three things
    >coomerism
    >playing with bodily fluids
    >symbolic internal lead into gold which is just meditating

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      the first two are thelemaic sex magick. that's not alchemy. it's a tool developed from alchemy. alchemy is a chess board, and the chess rules. the strategies and pieces you use for the board are the path you choose, which is developed from and for the game. however, the strategies and pieces are not the game itself.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Beautiful analogy anon

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Like all real things alchemy is purposely misinterpreted and muddied with fake shit while also being hidden in plain sight.
    Your best bet at it is reading ancient texts, the older the better, but be wary of mistranslations and omissions whenever they are on purpose or accident.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The older the better.
      Little know this, but Terence McKenna was vary avid about this rule. As well, he was subtly open about being an alchemist. He played around with his words (like all of us should), as to avoid scrutinous ignorance, but he left many hints. In every other lecture, there is some statement about "ancient texts," "the philospher's stone," "the alchemical secret," "I grew up with much exposure to the occult," "the Transcendental Object," mentioning Ancient Greece and Egypt, etc.; the way he avoided elaboration was usually turning it into a playfully dismissive joke. I think this is why many arrogant people consider him a Mason or a shill, however, if this were true: he would simply not have admitted to it whatsoever. It is my belief that only a true alchemist and follower of Hermes is willing to make some kind of attempt at dropping an open hint, let alone full-blown mentioning the truth occasionally. He made it his entire career, just veiled with a thin blanket. R.I.P Terence. A modern Hermes, and is several undermentioned in most intellectual spheres.

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Wonderful thread.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anybody ever read the Magnum Opus by Max Magnus Norman?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Whats alchemy in practice? You draw little drawings and meditate on those drawings?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's diggin' for all kinds of cool stuff

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Prayer and Lab work between study.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hylics really think it is about mixing a bunch of substances together. Sad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      That's because they still believe whatever powerpoint slideshow told them this in 4th grade

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    https://mortesubita.net/alquimia/meditacao-alquimica-um-guia-pratico-do-chumbo-ao-ouro/

    I consider this to be a very good introductory material, but as you can see it's not in english, so Google translate the page and you will be good (i guess)

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >noone knows nothing and talks nothing about Alchemy?

    Because alchemists can't not be vagueposting, 2deep4you, obfuscation

    >oooo, these esoteric truths are just too esoteric, they can't be expressed in language. They can only be conveyed in allegory and color codes.
    Dumb. Just say what you mean

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You can't spoonfeed alchemical understanding into someone, they have to seek it for themselves. There is not much to discuss amongst and between alchemists about the process, because all true students and adepts agree on it. The seeker always finds, the lips of wisdom are closed except to ears of understanding, pearls before swine, etc etc etc

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what an abhorrent post
      >the lips of wisdom are closed except to ears of understanding, pearls before swine
      those two statements contradict each other on the deepest level

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous
        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >take meds
          yawn

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Oink oink.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Spiritual or physical
    How can people look and millennia of written history where people are clearly working in labs while also talking about it being a spiritual journey and allegory for Christ and not think realize its both, the physical acts mirroring the spiritual purification?

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Does anyone have a tech tree sort of map of how different Alchemical elements came to be according to Alchemical theory? Always fun to look at schizographs.

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >be loser
    >get scared of death
    >end is nigh - in 60 years
    >start learning funny chemistry
    >start praying in like FOREVER
    >start learning interesting things
    >continue doing funny chemistry
    >get into studying metals
    >study divinity
    >funny chemistry let’s me keep my hair
    >learn about the God-Angel-Demon prison industrial complex
    >get frustrated
    >refuse all deals
    >get more frustrated
    >get a little older
    >look at soul - it’s getting better hmm
    >continue funny chemistry and praying
    >learn to be a puppet master in the containment zone
    >give it up - power over others is never worth it
    >seek more answers
    >learn about better self and places
    >new dimensions
    >magic?
    >continue funny chemistry
    >keep exercising and dieting
    >get more bogus offers from angels and demons
    >continue with funny chemistry
    >let it simmer
    >do some other stuff
    >one day get red material
    >a few minutes later..
    >BINGO! I sunk your battleship
    >want to play again? New game +. Messiah difficulty.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      yeah like a third of that has anything to do with alchemy

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The problem with communicating the divine art is that it must, by necessity, be veiled and concealed behind endless doors and lies. The process itself is like this. The knowledge is dangerous to the uninitiated. It's all out there in plain sight, for those who have the master keys.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      if that was true, you wouldn't be saying it... unless you had less than 85 IQ points... so you are either a lying psychopath or a certified moron

      >the biggest anti-freemasons are the freemasons themselves
      yeah I could appreciate that, and even support it... if freemasons haven't transformed themselves into a shitty crime syndicate after WW2... you should be ashamed of yourselves

      besides, alchemy (individual work, individual risk) was always the opposite of freemasonry (collective work, collective risk) so whatever one or another chooses to share is nunya business

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