A recent experience meditating gave me disturbing visions.

A recent experience meditating gave me disturbing visions. Dream or not, I felt like I was dying, extreme shortness of breath after feeling like I was looking through someone else's eyes for a brief moment, then a deep ache in that vein/nerve going from your heart down your left arm.
In the moment I could only feel what I was witnessing and as I came back to myself after I woke up I got swept with an overwhelming sense of anxiety, questioning if what I saw was my own death. For some reason the number 42 flashed in my head, almost like I 'remembered' seeing that number in the dream.
The day after I was a depressed mess. I had a drowning hopeless feeling that I couldn't place even though I had received some of the best financial news I could hope for. I could barely enjoy it or feel any satisfaction from it.
I felt drained, especially after the random panic attacks.
The only thing I can place is that my meditation was a guided archangel communication to receive "everything you need to know now." From what I understand, your archangels can be your ancestors or deceased relatives and if I'm not mistaken, my uncle died from a heart attack at age 42.
I can't place if I was empathetically connected to my uncle's death somehow or the vision was to tell me I would meet the same demise, I'm entering the same work he specialized in.
Anyone had similar experiences or am I losing my shit?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    This is a lightforged draenei board

    Succubus piggu go home

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what about anything I said has to do with succubi?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >archangels can be your ancestors or deceased relatives and if I'm not mistaken
    nephilim were severely punished for existing and as their parents too

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The angels in heaven who watch over hell on earth do not approve of current events. It is difficult to see how actions being taken are supposed to lead the world to peace, some world leaders have lost their sense of direction and are causing actions which have consequences for the spirit world.
    I don't know what you do for a living but if it is something that aligns you with those who are opposed to peace, prosperity, and freedom then your ancestors may be sending you a message expressing disapproval.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't know what you do for a living but if it is something that aligns you with those who are opposed to peace, prosperity, and freedom then your ancestors may be sending you a message expressing disapproval.
      This is very interesting to say the least.
      If I can be open and share, I'm a chef and I own my own small restaurant. My uncle was a chef as well, so was my great grandfather, and his father was a renowned pastry chef in his home country (Germany) and when he moved to the united states.
      My uncle was a very successful chef in one of the most upscale restaurants in my city, then he worked as a personal chef at an equestrian ranch until his passing. That was back in 2008 and EVERYONE all my life has said how much alike we are, how similar we look and act, then it turns out I have some inherited cooking talent when neither of my parents could cook for shit.
      Recently I've had a lot of weird experiences with people who seem to want to sabotage me. I know that sounds stupid and dramatic but there's a group of people who have tried several times over the winter to get me shut down to no avail. I've done nothing to these people so I can only imagine they are not aligned with peace and prosperity or freedom.
      When I woke up the following day I had repeated thoughts of
      >I shouldn't do this, I need to stop, why am I doing this, I shouldn't continue
      So maybe you're right? I'm not sure. I shared this story with my mom and she said it sounded like I needed to practice more self love if I didn't want to end up like her brother.

      The feelings you are experiencing could simply be a trauma response. What you felt IS traumatic.

      It is possible that you experienced his death, perhaps he tried to contact you but his own death still weighs on his spirit, maybe he's lost. If you are a believer in anything at all, light a candle andsay a prayer for him. Visit his grave and pay homage if you can.

      If you have neglected to do so, always ALWAYS banish before you meditate. You want a clean space. Can't stress this enough.

      Thank you for the recommendation and no I actually haven't banished before meditation, I usually express my gratitude and "dispell" the spirits or whatever by clapping and stomping my foot which I heard is supposed to work but you could be right too.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >not aligned with peace and prosperity or freedom
        peace, prosperity, AND freedom (for all)
        cooking is a karmic profession. this is a dream I had once when I was working as a butcher:
        >in the shop slicing meats, cutting pork chops
        >something goes bump behind me
        >look in the display case
        >instead of neatly arranged stacks of meat there's a whole pig in there laying down
        >I open the back of the case
        >the pig lifts its head to look at me
        >pig says "you and I are more than flesh"
        >dream ends
        are the people sabotaging you vegans? there's a right and a wrong way to cook and if you don't have respect for the food you eat it'll come back to bite you in the ass. I'm not vegan but I know better than to waste food, karma is real.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It also might be good to mention I was vegetarian up until I was 20, I didn't have meat until then and my culinary palate massively expanded after that. I was a decent cook with vegan/vegetarian recipes but I struggled to know if that's how we're supposed to eat. The most praise I've received are for my meat dishes. I have wondered of the karmic debt I'm accumulating from that but I refuse to use shitty, inorganic ingredients, that's one of the primary points of my business.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The feelings you are experiencing could simply be a trauma response. What you felt IS traumatic.

    It is possible that you experienced his death, perhaps he tried to contact you but his own death still weighs on his spirit, maybe he's lost. If you are a believer in anything at all, light a candle andsay a prayer for him. Visit his grave and pay homage if you can.

    If you have neglected to do so, always ALWAYS banish before you meditate. You want a clean space. Can't stress this enough.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I have extremely violent dreams where I’m defending myself against gangs. Are archons trying to kill me?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No you're probably just stressed. We still have ape brains no matter how much we discover, and our brain associates stress with possible imminent danger, with your subconscious mind ironically compounding the problem by keeping you alert for fights.

      You need some peace.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    that picrel is a spider.
    spiders are divine beings, we should be kinder to them

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It is normal to experience "negative" visions or sensations while meditating if we are in certain developmental phases. They'll get more powerful (realistic/immersive) the more you develop your concentration and meditative skills. I think visions during meditation shouldn't be taken as "premonitory", just as things to break down through observation and let them disperse, if you obsess over them they often become a hindrance.

    It's hard to convince people what they've seen during meditation isn't a "divine vision" or a case of siddhi, it's really common and people tend to get hung up on these visions.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Thank you for that, I feel a bit more grounded just reading it.
      I start getting paranoid my crystals are making me crazy or something. So it's better to see them as visual manifestations maybe of something going on inside myself rather than something coming to me or happening to me? I have been under a lot of stress lately that I'm not used to. I've never had such a demanding job.

      >not aligned with peace and prosperity or freedom
      peace, prosperity, AND freedom (for all)
      cooking is a karmic profession. this is a dream I had once when I was working as a butcher:
      >in the shop slicing meats, cutting pork chops
      >something goes bump behind me
      >look in the display case
      >instead of neatly arranged stacks of meat there's a whole pig in there laying down
      >I open the back of the case
      >the pig lifts its head to look at me
      >pig says "you and I are more than flesh"
      >dream ends
      are the people sabotaging you vegans? there's a right and a wrong way to cook and if you don't have respect for the food you eat it'll come back to bite you in the ass. I'm not vegan but I know better than to waste food, karma is real.

      I LOVE cooking for people because it makes them happy and I get told my food is special to people and their families. I have regulars, lots of children frequenting, it's a family place but I recently got a city award for it and honestly it just makes me feel more stressed and like there's a weight on my chest. I dont' know why.
      The people sabotaging me aren't vegans but all of them are alone and without children or spouses. I'm VERY afraid of ending up like that.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So when we have these negative experiences should we dive even deeper into them or should you try to end the meditation. I have sensational experiences of being able to fall into the ground or fly up into the sky. The ascent is always fine but the descent is absolutely horrible and I can never seem to descend smoothly, like I do on the ascent . It's always crashing down as if I have the weight of a boeign 747 attached to me

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You shouldn't let any of these experiences throw you off and distract you from your object of meditation. The best you can do in my opinion is to quickly note the "negative" sensations on the fly, which basically means to briefly acknowledge them without cutting your attention from the object of meditation. If you experience vertigo just note it as "vertigo" or "falling", "discomfort"..etc, attach notes to the sensations and let them be that, notes, by noting sensations you stop them from developing into complex sensate patterns that will surely throw you off.

        After you're done with your meditation you can then take your time analyzing the noted sensations one by one.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          how do you keep yourself from jolting from that vertigo feeling?
          it immediately breaks me out of the meditation.
          is it showing me not to listen to my anxiety? im a terribly anxious person and ive at least identified it as being rooted in the childhood trauma seeing my mom in the hospital almost dying. Ever since I've wanted everything to be perfect so she's happy and safe, even things that don't have anything to do with her.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You can just grow accustomed to it by cultivating your concentration skills over time and make it harder for it to shake you, or you can do some insight meditation on the sensations that accompany those memories about your mother. You should do both, i personally like to practice insight meditation when i'm going to sleep or i do simple repetitive things in my daily live. For concentration meditation i make its own time for it and sit down.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            upon reflection it feels like those feelings were brought to the surface for me to deal with rather than feel weighed down by them. I'm only just realizing this I guess but I used to have a really hard time even looking in the mirror.
            I feel better about myself after facing those emotions than I have in years. It took a lot for me to even realize I had some internalized trauma.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well, if you keep your practice simple and don't fall for any traps meditation can be the best free therapy, specially when you develop the framework for it and can easily apply insight meditation to any sensation that might bother you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Can you give some examples of meditation traps you're referring to?

            It's probably stuff from a past life surfacing.

            Could it also be ancestral or childhood trauma?

            https://i.imgur.com/ej0OhS8.jpg

            You have until 2042. Live it well and be a light unto those you come to know til then!
            Lol: y42nhk

            shut up

            42 is a psalm. Go read it.

            Thank you. Seems to be about finding God in hard times but the deeper meaning to me seems like blockages of self acceptance, that you do not need the love of the nation if you have the love of the self. I have three editions of the bible and all resonate that way with me but especially the Douay Rheims translation.
            Very applicable right now. Thank you again.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Can you give some examples of meditation traps you're referring to?
            Misconstruing due to lack of insight, this is why vipassana (insight practice) is important and people shouldn't just focus on samatha (concentration practice), otherwise they start getting visions, they start having conversations with "entities" they conjure up, experiencing minor siddhi/psychic phenomena and overall they can end up becoming completely ungrounded and detached from reality, most thinking they have achieved some sort of pinnacle or awakening and deluding themselves due to a lack of insight practice. This also ends up affecting negatively the moral framework, people can easily become twisted like this.

            In other words, just keep a balance of cultivating concentration and insight, the qualities developed by cultivating concentration will boost your insight practices, and the qualities developed by cultivating insight will keep you grounded and understanding of the weirdness that meditative states can cause.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It felt like bordering on some kind of psychotic break in a way. Like a 36 hour panic attack almost. I feel a lot more grounded than when I first posted but there's some lingering static feeling. I definitely don't want to ignite that somehow so I'll look more into insight. Honestly I thought it was the reverse; concentration can ground you and insight might make you schizo if you can't handle it.
            My first desire after coming out of those meditations has been to do something that really grounds me in a dumb way like playing a video game or something. Walks in nature are fine but it's been too fricking cold out for that lately so I'll play something to bring me back into this more chill, maybe childish/carefree activity.
            Do you have anymore recommendations on practices that can ground you better after these kinds of things?

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    sounds like you're losing your shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but it's something internal. looking into yourself can be difficult

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you're supposed to not pay much attention to the mind, you're giving extreme attention to the mind, even more than when non meditating

    exercising can get your body hurt if done with wrong posture, whatever "fantastical" appears in your meditation you're suposed to keep meditating and seeing as yet another mind object.

    Otherwise your mind will just keep inventing things to keep you from reaching your consciousness in itself, if it knows how to make you emotional.

    A true meditative response would be to consider all that as mind objects, at least during the meditation. A type of "sorry, but meditating now, I'll think about that later" and keep focusing on your breath instead.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's probably stuff from a past life surfacing.

  11. 1 month ago
    anonymous

    Why loneliness never ends?

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You have until 2042. Live it well and be a light unto those you come to know til then!
    Lol: y42nhk

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    42 is a psalm. Go read it.

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't panic, and bring a towel.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    According to a certain hitchhiking guide that number is important, or so ive heard

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what was the masonic significance of that again?

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Don't forget to let go, the path is always about letitng go of attachment, including attachments to visions, ideas about yourself, pleasent or unpleasent sensations, the concept of meditation itself...all of it.

    Other anon said already, but it's important to have both the theory and the practise. THEORY and PRACTISE. People been doin this shit for 1000s of years, many ppl have gone through the same shit, trust me. Don't get too attached to all these concepts and stories ur brain is conjuring.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      do you have any specific literature you recommend on that subject?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    thanks for sharing your experience OP. back in November, I got back into meditation and had an unnerving experience that left me feeling fried in a similar way. the whole thing knocked me on my ass for two weeks and I avoided meditating again until this week.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I believe the left arm sensation has something to do with the fact that humanity as a whole needs to rectify the left hand side of the tree of life. your sense of dread and doom makes sense to me as all of us on this planet are here in this time due to karma and we are not in a good state spiritually speaking. we have a lot of difficult work to do on ourselves in order to escape what is coming for those who choose not to do the work.

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