A question about Chi/Qi...

Chi, Kundalini, Chakras ... Do these energy systems share a common thread between them, or are they entirely separate energy systems?

How is someone supposed to think about them/understand them?

Thanks and looking forward to your response
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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >who was Dynamo Jack? What happened to him?

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You know where they come from, grab a damn book.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No I don't.

      What book?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    spirals
    dna
    snek
    moving up
    air like

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Do these energy systems share a common thread between them, or are they entirely separate energy systems?
    the chinese 3 dantiens concept is indeed a different paradigm entirely than the indian chakra based system
    not advisable to draw parallels despite the peak of the mountains being rather similar

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Chinese system
      >Indian system

      So are these systems even innate to the body? Or are they just forms of magic that attach to the body? Where does Kundalini fit into it, and why did the Indians discover it but not the Chinese?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >So are these systems even innate to the body? Or are they just forms of magic that attach to the body?
        it should be understood that there are certain things created within the body when certain cultivations are undertaken. your question is like asking if trees are innate to the ground, in a way.
        >Where does Kundalini fit into it, and why did the Indians discover it but not the Chinese?
        what most people refer to kundalini is the phenomena of having energetically overloaded the body to the point that odd things happen. kundalini syndrome and people saying they awakened their kundalini but dont have all these siddhis to show for it, this is not necessarily a good thing to do for yourself. so what we have is this, vs the high level achievement of the shushumna opening properly, and people simply conflate the two.
        I mean its like "doing the microcosmic orbit" without understanding the prerequisites and not knowing that if you dont put water in the pot to boil it, you just singe the empty pot on the stove.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          This makes a lot of sense, actually. I saw a video from Damo Mitchell recently who said it's probably time for him to start discussing historically hidden techniques since a lot of people are getting messed up by only learning bits and pieces without the whole picture. He said "microcosmic orbit" too, so I wonder just how many people have heard about that without knowing wider context or practices.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Damo doesnt teach the inner door stuff in his public material, but for good reason. you do neidan wrong and it will kill you, whether its turbo cancer or heart attack or whatever.
            the way the MCO practice is traditionally...er, "taught"...is a circulation method and not an opening method. one basically will not ever open it only trying this circulation exercise. to do it in a safe manner there needs to be "water in the pot," as in the ingredients must at least begin forming in the dantien area.
            there's a bunch of practices that will create things that were not there previously, this is the crux of the saying that people do not have a dantien by default, which denotes that the elixir has formed in the area.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            This anon seems to know what he's talking about.

            The energetic realities, and I use that word specificially because they are real, will tend to occur or appear according to 'how' you perceive them. There are different ways of perceiving based on the different 'levels' (not the best word) or 'frequencies' (even worse) of whatever you're looking at. So for example, you might feel or 'see' the denser chi energy associated with the meridian system of acupuncture, the fascia of the body, and the physiological processes of the body's organ systems. You could spend a lifetime engaged with refining this. But someone else may approach things a little differently and perceive the chakras, which are a different function based on a lower or higher 'level' (that word again) of function.

            These aren't 'separate' energy systems, in as much as nothing in the body is separate. But the difference between the chakras and the chi of the meridians is like the difference between the chi and the physical body; they are different levels of organisation or function.

            And as the other anon said, but somewhat understated I think, don't eff around with kundalini. Most people who talk about it don't have any idea what it is, or what its function is. And there aren't many people around who can fix you up if you mess yourself up with it.

            These concepts aren't really graspable by reading about them. They have to be experienced. The words, the map, is not the territory. A little green tree shape on a map doesn't tell you anything of the experience of being in a forest. Having said that, read as much as you can. Books, preferably, from reliable sources. There is a lot of very poor quality information online. And look for good teachers in yoga and chi gung, or nei gong as you may see it written, and meditation. Don't look for quick results and avoid anyone who promises you them.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I'm reading Bruce Frantzis and have no prior knowledge about qi gung. The book is called "Opening the Energy Gates of Your Body" or something like that. People seem to say he knows what he's talking about, but I looked him up and he's pretty out of shape, so I'm skeptical. Still the book is supposed to be pretty i troductory, so I don't expect I can hurt myself with it. Are you familiar with Bruce or the book in question? My goal is to improve my health, specifically I have a chronic pain issue I'm working through.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Idk why people talk like this so mysterious and ambiguous.

            What you do is the asmr and tre. You can make sensations happen qt will qfter a while. You feel this tingly buzzing energy. Some people describe it as a vibration. Its in the air in a cool breeze its everywhere and there is also bad energy (you transmute it etc..). Its literally like the force in star wars no cap. Watch some asmr and get good at having the feeling. Lay on your back and draw it up through your legs into your abdomen etc... you root chakra etc will start to become very pronounced buzz and tickle with pleasant feelings and you will feel dantien among many other things.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >the way the MCO practice is traditionally...er, "taught"...is a circulation method and not an opening method.

            Why do you say taught in quotation marks?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Its part physical and part non physical. The chakras and such in your body is where the spirit comes through. Its essentually nerves and such. Bio electricity you could say. Theres the vagus nerve for example which is amazing for stimulating brain and such. You can tap into this in meditation it can feel like a deep tickle and is very pleasant but there are also devices you can use.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Numbers are a spectrum of infinitesimal so is time fractions so are circle arcseconds so is chakra locality

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