10 sefirot and the 22 major arcana

So if the magician corresponds to kether and with the wheel of samsara we reach malkuth, what happens when we go back up to yesod with persusasion, hanged man in hod, etc...reverse everything. The numbers don't add up. What happens after star? does star (17) correlate with Daath then? with moon and sun correlating with binah and chesed, and then resurrection at kether?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you god damn Black person. the 22 arcana cards correspond to the 22 paths on the tree not individual sephiroth.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      right, but the order doesn't change. Magician is still the path between kether and chockmah, chariot still goes from tiphereh to victory.

      the question I'm asking is, are the cards after the 10th arcanum supposed to go UP the tree of life? Is that the correct reading?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It's much simpler to just apply it your own way and stop taking it as literally. You can even apply multiple religious archetypes/pantheons. For example, Thoth/Hermes worshippers value Hod very deeply as those deities can be used to represent that same archetype, or Rosicrucians believe Christ is Yesod. Just don't take seriously the dumb homosexuals who will call Venus as Lucifer, because Lucifer already is its own Qliphoth sphere. By the way, don't even bother with Qliphoth. I would suggest honing your ability to understand abstract and metaphorical concepts, as well as looking into real symbolism and not what is said on this site (unless they actually source a book instead of some infograph or YT link). These tips will help you greatly in the long run, as this is what others had to explain to me.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah I barely browse this board. I know there's a lot of useless schizo talk here.

          For the particular purpose I'm after right now I'm just trying to visualize a simple of case of descent and ascent, and the major arcana seems to be designed exactly for that, with the turning point being the persuasion and hanged man cards, with the energy moving upward instead of downward.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I wouldn't know how to answer that as I haven't studied the paths myself, and only knew Tarot was for divination. That's actually a new idea for me, what you said.

            how would you avoid seeing christ as tifareth?

            Christ is the unfolded human. Out of the box, into a crucifix. It sounds moronic on the surface level, but essentially Christ is the manifest good in man. You could easily relate him to Yesod, as Yesod is supposed to be the sphere of consciousness where you come into Christlike understanding. I.e. Kindess, deeper connection to source, deeper understanding of people and circumstance, less judgemental (although we will always fluctuate emotionally. that doesn't ever go away).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            no, yesod is normal psyche, tifaret is your higher psyche, christ represents this, as you suppose, but it is tipharet, the point which passes through the greater, more impersonal, spheres. I'm afraid you've got the root of the idea, but, as said earlier, your. shit. is. all. moronic. read a book. don't be teaching people incorrectly as you are.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            psyche? huh? yesod is sex, the philosophers stone, the foundation upon which the church is built

            read le book guys

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > The Three Supernals having their correlatives on a lower arc in Chesed, Geburah, and Tiphareth. Anyone who has had experience of practical Qabalism knows that for all practical purposes Tiphareth is Kether for us while we tabernacle in this house of flesh, for no man may look upon the face of God and live. We can only see the Father reflected in the Son, and Tiphareth shows us the Father." Netzach, Hod, and Yesod form the Lower Triad, overshadowed by Tiphareth as the Lower Self is overshadowed by the Higher Self. One might, in fact, say that the four lower Sephiroth form the Personality, or unit of Incarnation, of the Tree; the Higher Triad of Chesed, Geburah, .and Tiphareth form the Individuality, or Higher Self, and the Three Supernals correspond to the Divine Spark.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >he doesn't know

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          how would you avoid seeing christ as tifareth?

          • 1 month ago
            BlueBoy

            Look at the sephirot as a talent tree with gem slots. Stop associating Christ with the actual picture of some guy, and start to see it as something that is within yourself.

            You can look at the planetary bodies in many ways, but you can see them as their ideas (gods) or their form (big things in the sky).

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            you're speaking to a kabalist. maybe rephrase the answer with your actual reasoning. i already have the perspectives.

          • 1 month ago
            BlueBoy

            I'm not even going to bother

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            probably best if you'r a namegay comparing the etz chaim to video game trees. fricking moron.

          • 1 month ago
            BlueBoy

            >he doesn't know

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >You can even apply multiple religious archetypes/pantheons
          Yes, I apply even hs (sum comic ppl read back then) and it works perfectly. Dath=Void. Life=Chesed. an alias like "Life" easily calls back to Chesed since it is mercy. Blood=Geburah is the same. At first, I did it on a whim, but isn't having an English name to recognize them useful? makes it ez to remember at least. Truly peak chaos magick.
          >Magician is still the path between kether and chockmah
          uh, the attributions I copied have that as Fool. do I have to fix it?or?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            they have english names:
            >crown, wisdom, understanding
            >mercy, strength, beauty
            >victory, glory, foundation
            >kingdom

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >Thoth/Hermes worshippers
          do neophytes really?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >By the way, don't even bother with Qliphoth.
          Could you elaborate? I am working with the tree of life, but I do not exclude that I could work with the tree of death in a few years, always as theurgy and not for selfish purposes.

          • 1 month ago
            BlueBoy

            It's just really gross

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    your shits all moronic and you talk like a gay. read a book.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Ignore this guy, OP. People like this are afraid of discussion and won't follow up shit like this with anything valuable

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